Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker
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Huawei is ahead of Apple because Huawei sells also HONOR branded smartphones.
2019Q3
Samsung 21%
(*BBK 20%)
Huawei 18%
Apple 12%
*Oppo 9%
Xiaomi 8%
*vivo 8%
*Realme 3%
Chinese brands have almost 50% global market share.
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https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/12/19/apple-earned-66-o...
66% to Apple, 17% to Samsung and the rest is fighting for the scraps. Which is actually better than a while ago where Apple + Samsung > 100% because the rest was losing money. Already quite a few brands have left the market.
I prefer Android and Linux, so I avoid Apple products for myself.
Tight control of the supply chain from top to bottom pays dividends over the years.
Plus, iOS across all your devices tends to "just work" way better than trying to stitch together things across environments via 3rd party apps or web widgets. So if you're already in the iOS ecosystem, just keep extending it.
Of course, the opposite is sorta true too. If you're heavily invested in Android, Android devices will tend to work well together. But with a bit more manual massaging sometimes.
Windows actually had the best across device seemless integrations out of all the offerings. Too bad they didn't make enough market share to make a dent.
I'd love to take a look at non-apple options.
That's only a problem when you view a product as just a bunch of discrete parts' summed value. A MacBook Pro is a macOS dongle that also happens to be one of the - if not the - best ultrabooks you can get.
“ Huawei announced on Tuesday its revenue hit 611 billion yuan, approximately $86 billion, for the third quarter, a jump of 24.4% over the same period last year.
In a statement short on numbers, the company also said its net profit margin for the period was 8.7%.
The company added its smartphone business had shipped 185 million units over the three quarters for the year to date, an increase of 26% year on year.
On 5G, the company said it had signed 60 commercial contracts and shipped over 400,000 5G Massive MIMO antennas. ”
https://www.zdnet.com/article/huawei-revenue-up-by-almost-on...
I suspect they could run large losses for a long time because their value to China isn't entirely contained in their P&L statement.
You can say that Chinese phones have 90%+ of global market.
Samsung still manufactures in China, it just closed its own factories there. OEMs and CMs took over manufacturing for them.
Only their cheapest models are made in Hanoi and Seremban. Some of their domestic market models are still made in Gumi.
I think the more interesting metric to watch is India. With 27% of their population in 2018 owning a smartphone (compared to 55% in China and ~80% in more wealthy Western nations like the US) they're likely to demonstrate meteoric rise in the next few years while Chinese adoption tapers off asymptotically towards the limit. The current 13% representation will rise towards 21%, causing the effective market share of Chinese smartphone owners to drop towards 22%.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_smartphon...
if I read it correctly, they counted number of units sold, and not actual sales amount in USD.
It seems like if you want updates after a couple of years you'd best make sure your phone isn't locked out from aftermarket ROMs.
The last time I bought a phone, I consulted that list first and compared all recent entries without fixating on a specific manufacturer. I ended up with a Xiaomi Mi A1 that's been holding up well so far and already went through one major Android update without problem.
Have you noticed that the battery was going up when you do that?
The thing just keeps breaking.
Huawei does very well in a niche of quite pricey mid-range phones without anything special.
The quality is as you see, quite average. The screen and loudspeaker died from improper sealing, batteries died to safety triggering both times.
At least they come with sound mechanical engineering. Why I bought it? It's still the best option if you want to buy a moderately well built phone, but don't want to go for a "superphone."
The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and architectural chip designs are one of the last things that China hasn't really developed home grown in a successful way, but it is likely next. Thus taking on directly Microsoft Windows, Android, ARM and Intel.
https://cntechpost.com/2019/12/13/china-made-operating-syste...
Sounds flawless...
It would by now be more worrying if he didn't.
But I guess "chinese spies eat telecoms babies" is a much more dramatic headline...
I don't think the US is innocent either, of course tech that we use internally and export is probably backdoored out the wazoo.
I would rather assume almost everything I use is backdoored one way or another, and operate that assumption, rather than assume the opposite to be true and be wrong.
It's not a dramatic headline. Governments spying on each other and their citizens is the boring default state of the things.
Even if you believe the worst about China and Huawei, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of strategic sense for them to implant backdoors into products now, when marketshare is still small and growing rapidly. You'd add the backdoors once you had network dominance, like the US did.
Those tests have usually identified several issues, and Huawei has been slow to address them. For example, one of the conclusions of the 2019 report [1] was that "No material progress has been made on the issues raised in the previous 2018 report" Some of these issues are known vulnerabilities in old versions of dependencies like OpenSSL that Huawei has forked and then neglected to update.
[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/huawei-cyber-secu...
Of course they had only a minor effect, since they were always postponed to some future date. [1] The sanctions weren't intended to be crippling and harsh, but to threaten becoming crippling and harsh unless China makes certain concessions. So long as the concessions remain on the table, the sanctions remain off the table.
[1] Currently February 16, 2020 apparently: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/us-government-postpo...
It's not quite Tin Foil Hat time, but I also wondered: if the chinese government had tried to ban foreign OSs and force a homegrown equivalent it would have been resisted at home and abroad it would have spurred (real) sanctions and possibly upset the (lucrative, strategically valuable) hardware supply chain.
Trump doing it was a great way for the Chinese government to get what it wanted without looking like the bad guy (it might even be able to play the victim, especially at home).
Given the predictability of these outcomes, one has to wonder: was Trump incompetent (he expected a different outcome) or was he serving a different agenda (maybe a trump hotel in Beijing is about to be approved?).
The primary issue has always been a concern of supply-chain governance for critical infrastructure, i.e. carriers networks. The US doesn't have any of these concerns about European 5G equipment manufacturers because they are close allies. The US has a high degree of confidence that the governments of Sweden and Finland aren't going to pressure Nokia or Ericsson to compromise the support or supply-chain of US 5G infrastructure.
The "National Security" concern (economically, technologically, capability and integrity-wise) is at the carrier level. Think Cisco, not iPhone.
The US outspends the next 7 countries in defense, combined.
Regarding actual economic sanctions are a very effective weapon in US Foreign policy.
Aside from it's military might, the US is one of the biggest players in the global economic market. That allows it to wield incredible leverage.
I highly doubt this. So far, what China has done is producing lower cost equivalent to products already developed by other nations. I don't see how China is leading the pack in terms of innovation, here.
Beside, I don't think we can consider smart phones to be "high technology" anymore. The market is saturated with them and the innovation has slowed down massively since a couple of years ago.
I do not see that stopping.
Then Samsung won't make lots of money. This way you can have Samsung fanboys that'll swear that Samsung stuff is better and will keep buying it.
Because Samsung is made outside of China and will not be tariffed.
Here is more information on that report: https://finitestate.io/2019/06/26/report-finds-cybersecurity....
And here is a video of our CEO talking more about it: https://finitestate.io/2019/10/03/security-weekly-podcast
https://www.wsj.com/articles/huaweis-yearslong-rise-is-litte...
Only an inept government would willingly stall the development of its own country to honorably respect those trade secrets. Everybody doing business with China knew, but the economical incentive was too great to pass.
FWIW, polluting water ecosystems is more common in developing countries (because they don't have the money to care about luxuries like environmental protection) and they've been slowly regenerating in developed countries, so from that perspective you should hope for China to become developed faster rather than slower.
My point has everything to do with what the global ecosystem can take, and how much of an impact any nation has on it. As a species we need to figure out how to develop societies and countries without poisoning the planet.
The concept that because a country hasn’t reached PPP with the US it’s developing and can do what it pleases is patently insane. The Earth just doesn’t have the environmental resources for that, it’s already painfully apparent if you aren’t covering your eyes and ears. The human race can’t wait for countries to completely develop to play by the rules. Sucks.
Meanwhile China has demonstrably better infrastructure and more development in terms of cities than the US. I think by a lot of measures the US is still “developing”, we certainly lack the rail infrastructure of other “developed” countries for example, and our cities lack the dense, efficient urban cores of highly developed old world.
To boil my argument down, if China can build an extensive high speed rail network and capture the global electronics and PV markets they’ve moved beyond a “developing” economy, regardless of how well off or not the majority of their populace is.
I bought a Pixel because it's from Google so it gets security patches and has a decent camera.
I've always wondered why none of these Chinese companies have tried to make something as good as an iPad. I had one of the venerable Nexus 7 tablets a long time ago and since then all the iPad competitors, with the exception of Amazon, haven't basically given up. I have a 10.5" iPad Pro and it's probably my favorite computer to use.
When he sees how much horsepower I have with my Xiaomi mi 9 for 1/3rd of the price, he wants to cry. It makes better photos too. His biggest regret in electronics shopping so far.
That comparison must obviously disregard privacy concerns, but I find it foolish to expect any kind of privacy, on any phone, Apple included. Hence no critical, single point of failure apps there.
So.... if it works fine why do you need to tweak it?
As someone who is moving from android to iphone shortly, I am highly excited to have a device that "just works" and will stay updated. The last thing I want in a phone is to have to manage it. I have my PC for that part of my life.
I've mostly used Android for phones since they do the same general things as iPhones, they work fine out of the box, and stay updated since I only buy phones with good update policies.
The main difference isn't in how well they succeed, but in how they "fail". It's true that current iPhones have added most of the features I found lacking in the past, but there are still a few that have no real workaround. Changing default apps is still limited, browser restrictions are annoying, and there's no easy way I know of to enable system-wide ad blocking.
When a phone "just works" as I want 98% of the time, the difference to me is how able I am to get it working as I want the other 2% of the time. Obviously this is only based on my needs and expectations so I don't expect anyone else to share them.
I just bought a new phone for my partner and she has always used iPhones so that's what I bought for her. She prefers them and that's fine. Only real annoyance there was paying $750 for a phone with a 828x1792 LCD and 64GB storage when I paid $550 for my phone a year ago and it has a 1080x2280 AMOLED display and 128GB storage.
I know "specs don't matter" but it was still surprising. Even with Apple's market cachet and whatnot, I expected the higher price but also expected a bit more parity with a year-old phone. It's no surprise that some buyers are looking toward Chinese and other OEMs.
iOS is definitely not for those who want to highly customize their mobile device. It's kind of like renting a home vs owning one -- you can do light decoration but you can't knock down any walls. There are pros and cons to that. You can't customize as much, but you also skirt some of the responsibilities that come with property ownership. Some people prefer one set of responsibilities and freedoms over the other. Neither one is right for everyone.
There can ocean in terms of specs between the lowest end phones they sell here vs models they only sell in other countries.