I like this article, and not with a "like" button.
PS. I still use IM, and twitter like a notepad/thoughtstream (although I don't really promote it to friends).
I like this article, and not with a "like" button.
PS. I still use IM, and twitter like a notepad/thoughtstream (although I don't really promote it to friends).
Some op-ed considered dropping out of facebook as a radically anti-social act, and I'd have to agree: you're not considering the group's views on communication, and you're forcing them into a personal world. When the entire social circle uses facebook as a communication platform, it's pretty pompous to expect it to use what a single person wants. This is my argument boiled down: expecting a group of people to conform to a single person's views is rude, and the delusion that the one person is so important that everyone else will conform is anti-social.
The majority opinion on HN seems to be that this isn't, oddly enough. The last time I stated my experience it seemed to piss a lot of people off, and there was a knee-jerk reaction that "true friends will work around it." Maybe, but weak connections are important as well, and since facebook is the place for weak-connection friends, defiantly not using it seems off and a little anti-social.
Another argument was that interaction existed before facebook, so not using it is fine. That's dancing around the point: facebook is the current defacto standard of social communication, not participating it is seen as aggravating to the other party, not that it destroys communication completely. Try telling your friends that you'll only interact with them in orkut. Or, for the Gen X'rs here, that you're dropping your phone, and you expect them to say "hi, how's the job" through post mail and in-person visits. There's a series of fall backs here that's reversed for the average hacker. The hacker sees facebook as personal, and email/phone public. The average person sees facebook as a public place, and email/phone as a personal channel.
"If one person calls you a donkey, ignore him; if five people call you a donkey, buy a saddle"
When she calls me a donkey, I'll get fitted for a saddle. When vampyrlust317 and fifty of his/her Facebook "friends" do so, I'll probably ignore it.
Seriously, you need a better class of friends. Are you seriously telling me that people won't talk to you in person because you aren't on Facebook?
What the hell is wrong with people?
People at work are suspicious when they find out I'm not on facebook, and try to cajole me into joining.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't claim to have been much better.
And FWIW, I've observed the same effect for quitting WoW. Once I did, a whole class of friends stopped talking to me.
> And FWIW, I've observed the same effect for quitting WoW. Once I did, a whole class of friends stopped talking to me.
They're jackasses if that's really the reason they stopped talking to you -- unless WoW is all you had in common with them, in which case I don't understand your problem. I find it difficult to believe you're honestly defending that kind of behavior, if they were supposedly real (not just gaming) friends.
Upvoted just for this. Not sure if it's true or not, but it's a provocative thought.
Could someone explain what this means?
For some of us it's the other way around: email and phone is how people we don't know well contact us, reserving Facebook and Twitter for closer interactions.
Once I graduated college, I deleted everyone that I felt like was only an acquaintance. Once I got a job, the bloat began again. How do you deny a friend request to someone you work with?
Now... I can't stand Facebook. There is no use for me in having friends, coworkers, and relatives in one space unless I'm at a wedding or funeral. Facebook also puts all the burden of responsibility on the user to segregate their friends into 'groups' which is by no means as easy as it should be.
I now feel like just deleting it. I hardly ever check it anymore unless I get a message from someone.
Like you said, I prefer to email or call someone.