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Comment by Havoc | Hacker News Reader

They've been making increasingly more user hostile choice lately.

Digg lessons weren't apparently not learned

Learning lessons? They're making their website worse on purpose! They don't want people to use the Reddit website — they want people to use the app, because that's where all the ads and tracking is.

That would make sense if the app wasn't also terribly user unfriendly.

I have a feeling they will disable 3rd party apps soon. That will be the day I stop using Reddit.

First they will disable old.reddit.com I think. Then 3rd party apps.

Oh, old.reddit.com is the only usable thing.

and https://i.reddit.com

It's probably 5x faster than the new mobile site, too

That would be disabling the only two ways I visit reddit (for nine years, wow).

Navigation is completely broken.

For example, I open a notification (the only reason I have the apo installed - this could be done with web PNs) and then either click back or the X, both wrongly navigate back one time to the same message, then close the app completely. I often have to kill the app to get out of this.

Why the hell can't we stick to documents for reading stuff, and even posting the occasional comment?

Pushing the app is why I never managed to use reddit for anything.

They went close to a decade without making Digg's mistakes. But now that investors are involved, they have to start putting up walls and plastering them with ads.

Digg failed because Reddit existed. There's no similar social media for Reddit refugees to go to.

Reddit had existed for a while before Digg saw a mass exodus. I used both at the same time until Digg pushed a big update that broke the site.

Yeah, for a while, Digg and Reddit were very similar, so Digg thought, "Hey, let's differentiate ourselves from our competitors." They then proceeded to ruin themselves by trying to become something more like a news aggregator, when what users really wanted was what Reddit remained.

And this was at the same time, or roughly the same time, that slashdot started making 'improvements'. I dumped both slashdot and digg to go to reddit. And now I'm starting to look for somewhere else to go.

You have succeeded, you are on HackerNews. Isn't this why we are all here? HackerNews is kind of like what Slashdot,Digg and Reddit were originally; that is "news for nerds".

Yeah, but I still love dank memes, is the issue. I have just enough childish mess inside me that I want some deep fried memes or somethings like that. For example, one of my most frequented subreddits is r/Im15andthisisyeet.

Absolutely no value for the HN crowd, and it would piss me off to no end if that sort of thing came here, but I still want it occasionally.

Hacker News isn't really comaparable to the different niche subreddits that I am subscribed to. At the same time I am not interested at all in the business-related articles that are also part of this site. That's why I still use reddit: I can subscribe to the topics I like while filtering out others or only viewing them when I'm bored.

NNTP, and I'm just half joking. It's always been around, might always will be around. The old reddit is essentially an nntp web frontend.

Well, there is voat, but not many people can endure the culture over there.

Just went to voat, and it keeps redirecting me to the sign in page regardless of where I go, so looks like they've beaten reddit in terms of unfriendly accessibility.

Yeah, it's intentional, since the site periodically gets Ddos'd.

Time to go back to the source? Something Awful?

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