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I can't speak for In-N-Out, but I know Chick-Fil-A treats their employees quite well.

Chick-Fil-A's engineering office is in middle of nowhere south Atlanta. You either have a long commute from midtown and above or you're living in some sketchy neighborhoods.

According to this article[0], they have trouble retaining employees, because their office location is so bad.

[0] - https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2019/10/19/chick-fi...

Most Chick-Fil-A employees are probably not engineers.

Which is why the comparison is pointless.

>According to this article[0], they have trouble retaining employees, because their office location is so bad.

No, nothing in the article says that.

> The decisions are based on the battle to recruit and retain top talent. More of those companies are moving to the Beltline.

The fourth paragraph.

Less directly, they quote a spokeperson:

> This new office space will allow us to grow while inspiring new and existing talent Christina Coleman, director of campus planning and operations for Chick-fil-A

In-N-Out does as well. In-N-Out location managers make serious money and the company is known for promoting from within, good benefits and positive employee experiences.

Interestingly, both Chick-Fil-A and In-N-Out are highly religious organizations.

True conservatism can be appealing when every new thing is a means to strip away rights, money, and privacy.

Is there anyone in the universe voluntarily quitting their job at Google to go to work at In and Out Burger? No? So in what sense is it a better place to work? Clearly not empirically.

If pay weren’t a consideration I would have been working at a coffee shop years ago.

I love working with a complicated temperamental machine and cranky demanding sometimes charming people.

Which is why I went with my 2nd choice: programming

My understanding is that it's just based on employee satisfaction with their workplace. The implication is that In-N-Out Burger might be a better place to work relative to other options for its employees than Google is relative to other options for its employees.

As an engineer?

I bet lots would if the pay was the same.

God, if pay for all jobs were equal I'm not sure software development would even make my top 100 list of jobs I'd like to do.

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