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usefathom.com
usefathom.com
Their pitch is "we respect your privacy more than the other guy" instead of just "we respect your privacy". User privacy is the antithesis of what they do.
This is not to dismiss Fathom entirely. But there are free alternative (with server setup cost) that keeps your data private: Matomo (formerly Piwik).
I've run it in parallel with Google Analytics and it was the closest replacement I could find. But again, small website owners don't pay for analytics. When anything I write generates even modest traffic, Matomo crashed. Adding a more robust server would help, and they have documentation for optimization. But hey it's just my personal blog.
If you are looking to add robust analytics, GA is the no-brainer. If you are willing to pay and respect privacy, use Matomo and have your devops optimize it for you.
I have two sites in my Fathom Analytics account which I pay $14 USD/month. Keep in mind that you can add multiple sites to your Fathom account, you just need to keep an eye on the page views.
$14/mo is not too much for me knowing my services and websites aren’t another point of interest in googles data mining and selling scheme.
Looking at these as a developer, I'm building https://sdan.io/pingpong, which should be free up to 100k visitors monthly and am expecting to launch in January.
It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple.
If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
Besides, I think the only stance that genuinely respects the user's rights is the one that says no data should be collected, ever.
Privacy started becoming more important when we started seeing the gross tactics companies used to identify you & link all of your actions / history to you. Fathom doesn't do this and never will.
Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?
https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#ana...
Why don't give full version free for sites with low x visitors/month. One can easily upgrade if they see enough value. 2 cents.
And we're not in a position to offer a free plan but may do in the future.
If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
Anyways, thanks!
That's why, I'm building https://sdan.io/pingpong, which should be free up to 100k visitors monthly and am expecting to launch in January.
It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple.
If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
> It definitely is.
It is not, you pay $14 and you get basic analytics and this https://usefathom.com/news/anonymization that's worth the money for me.
> It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple.
What about user privacy? are you anonymizing the users?
Finally, yes, I'm planning to utilize a variety of shuffling and hashing techniques to anonymize users, data, and all other aspects. At the moment, I'm focusing on getting under 90ms on average globally (which I have achieved, just not implemented into the master branch yet)... which is over 4.5x faster than Fathom's average of 420ms globally. More coming soon! Fill out if interested: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8.
Your service, which I've seen is serverless, is actually pretty fast compared to other services and for that I have to admire your work. However, as I've done some response time testing on Postman (https://twitter.com/notsuryad/status/1199201916850278400?s=2...) I've found that my service is getting right next to Google Analytics' response times.
I'll release more details about how I've conducted this soon, but I hope the best for Fathom (I've used Fathom self hosted before but ran into some issues).
I'm assuming it isn't using local or session storage either, because it's pretty disingenuous to replace cookies with a newer technology with about the same purpose and then pretend it's somehow more 'privacy respecting.'
I imagine if its JS rewrote every link on the page to persist some random id as a URL param, it could theoretically accomplish those basic analytics tasks - though it would get tricky when navigation happened by forms or via JS.
Another theory is that maybe they just use IP as a proxy for a user. Pretty flawed since office buildings or home networks with multiple users will just appear as one "person" with a nonsensical usage pattern.
(of course, my above "idea" is functionally identical to a cookie, but the idiot politicians don't understand any of this technology, so it would probably be considered "ok" by the law even though "cookies" are somehow evil and scary).
There are lots of cases I can think of where I wouldn't be all that interested in gathering Google Analytics level data and would be fine with being able to do a bit of analysis about unique users and usage patterns. (beyond doing it myself with a log aggregator and creating my own dashboards)
In either case, I'm building a cheaper and faster version of Fathom (http://sdan.io/pingpong). Currently I'm onboarding some customers. I'll try to see if I can incorporate web access logs as well.
If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
I hope there is space in the market for a product like this. I did a reasonable amount of research and the $14/month is worth it for the handful of side projects I use it on.
Their marketing can be a little earnest, but for me the product strikes the right balance between the info provided, privacy, and cost.
They can not be defeated by privacy focused browsers or by JavaScript being inactive.
The only real problem with them is that they (typically) requires access to CPanel (although you can make the stats ‘public’) and that the interfaces are ancient and typically not mobile-friendly. Thinking of AWStats in particular but the rest seem similar.
Some cheaper hosts also kill your old stats (and logs) after a year or so, so you lose cool 5-year growth stats.
I mean, we LITERALLY, already have the data we need. Sitting right there. On our own servers. But we don’t look at it or have good (easy) tools, so we sling third-party JavaScript onto all our webpages and consult someone else.
Something has gone backwards (again) on the internet.
That's why, I'm building https://sdan.io/pingpong, which should be free up to 100k visitors monthly and am expecting to launch in January.
It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple.
If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Ana... 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_data_breaches etc.