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I agree. In theory, declarative languages let programs reason about the content more easily. But I can't think of when that has actually been a real benefit.

Flutter gets it right. The code looks almost like it is declarative. But really it's just Dart code (an underappreciated language IMO) and you never get stuck by things that are impossible to express.

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> The code looks almost like it is declarative. But really it's just Dart code

I need to figure out how to express this better in the future, but if you swap "Dart" for "Rust," this sentence applies to moxie as well. It's what I mean when I say that the callgraph of functions is used for structure.

Yeah, the way I would say this is that "being declarative" is the goal, and the broad strokes of the way you express app logic (one way data binding and so on) are pretty similar, but the implementation details of how you get there vary widely. Expressing the app logic as just running some code, with the side effect of generating your UI, is an appealing approach, because it means that all of the power of your host language is under your fingertips if you need it.

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