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I always thought ERP is basically applied “cybernetics”

Also a big problem with a system like this, in the 20th century socialist states, is that the input data would have been complete bullshit. That was one of the issues the soviet gosplan ran up against during the final days. Everyone was lying about their production numbers so the data was useless, whether in a fancy computer system or not.

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That's certainly true of the Soviet case (the fear instilled by the Stalin years left everyone lying constantly just to avoid the bullet), but Chile was very different. The whole project was to build a genuinely inclusive and worker-led democracy. And they got pretty far with it too, considering they were under economic blockade. We don't get to find out how the story would have ended because the Yanks decided to do a fascist coup and kill everyone.

Well, not everyone. Some people were allowed to live so that an unprecedented era of prosperity unmatched by any other country in Latin America could be ushered in.

The "Miracle of Chile" is pretty greatly overstated. Their GDP per capita didn't beat Latin american average until 1990, they've never beat unemplyment rates for Latin America as a whole, etc. They were also subject to much greater recessions relatively when recessions happened across Latin America.

IMO so much of the positives can be attributed to the CIA stopping their policy of "make their economy scream".

... In which most people didn’t reap benefits, as the current protests show.

Almost two months of protests. Now protests in Colombia. Protests in Bolivia against the regime that USA and Israel put there.

Israel is deeply invested in Bolivia?

It appears that way from the outside, bit it's hard to say for sure.

Morales cut ties in response to Israeli actions in Gaza, cutting Israel off from Bolivia's lithium deposits. And now one of the first things the new government has done is reestablish ties, even before getting a lot of their interim government together.

So prosperous that raising the price of public transit by a few dollars has led to widespread protests.

Are we comparing it to Canada or something? Then you're right, it's not that close. Or are we comparing it to the lands of triumphant Salvador Allendes, like Venezuela? No successful coup took place there, and I hear the transit is downright free in Caracas these days.

unprecedented prosperity for like, 20 people. The millions of other people definitely haven't enjoyed anything but immense poverty and misery since the Pinochet coup the implementation of the neoliberal wet dream.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you haven't traveled around Latin America much and have never been to Chile, and seen the dramatic difference?

Yes, it's so good that Chileans come to the universities in my country, Argentina, and many work here. And we're happy to help them, because Neoliberalism took their opportunities and their future.

What's the dramatic difference? It's like USA, worst quality of life, inequality and a bunch of idiots whom for decades stole from workers and avoided taxes, and try to sell that "model" to the rest of the world.

thats fair, I haven't personally. However my wife is chilean and I am capable of reading and comprehending statistics so I'm satisfied.

As I've observed, ERP systems also require factories talking to one another on the phone, to work out production plans and schedules. I worked for a company that supplied parts to customers with ERP systems, and their systems generated boom-bust cycles. We took care of them by making our own estimate of how much each customer needed per month, and keeping a bit of inventory cushion.

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