Sweet Home 3D is a free interior design application
sweethome3d.com
sweethome3d.com
- Update the website visuals/design, they seem a bit dated
- Put the download buttons on the front page to increase conversions
- Make a mobile version, especially for tablets. Most tablets nowadays seem powerful enough for your software, particularly the iPad. I'm sure you've thought of this before, and I have no idea what the competition is like. However, as a home owner, I can tell you interior design apps have 0% of my mind space. They should probably have more, especially considering that, combined with sites like Wayfair, IKEA, and Overstock.com, you can have a design --> purchase pipeline which is both convenient for consumers and beneficial for you via referral revenue.
Also, this isn't really a suggestion, but something I'd personally love: Machine learning interior design. AutoCAD already has ML structural design tools, and this would be simpler than that. Make it so that a consumer can enter their parameters (room layout, cost, visual style preferences) and your "artificial interior designer intelligence" generates 10 designs that the user can mix and match from. The designs would link to the cheapest seller of each piece of furniture. Alternatively, the user can manually select the main pieces of furniture, like the couch and TV console, enter their parameters, and the virtual assistant will suggest matching "in fill," things like couch pillows that people usually neglect or just purchase randomly whatever is on sale. Augmented reality viewing of the machine-generated designs would be the cherry on top and prepare you for mass market introduction of AR glasses.
Furniture libraries from major vendors would be great!
Just to be clear, 'Show HN: ' wasn't an accidental or unknowing omission - I have nothing to do with the project. I just happened across it, thought it was cool, and wanted to read the HN comments.
- Yes it is dated (and very fast) - so what? The app is the important thing, the website works.
- If you need to find it, you will. I cannot recall failing to find download links (at least two of them on the home page)
- Mobile. Perhaps if you have a 21" screen on it!
ML? Not too sure about that here. Perhaps Ikea et al could run with that. I use it starting from reality. Perhaps hitching it up to a theodolite, EDM and other measuring tools would be more useful than a "what if I could read your mind and get it badly wrong" tool.
- People might not find it and just leave frustrated, resulting in lower users
Basically they created a nice software, but then "scare" away their users with their website. Not very ideal.
- There are at least two links on the homepage labelled Download. If you Google for it then Download is linked directly in the top hit. Big G can parse it OK and so can I. Also I got a few of my non technical staff to take a look and they all downloaded it OK. One of them then asked me to set it up for them - another SH3D customer in the making 8) They had watched the video on the home page and were positively salivating!
I understand where you are coming from but if you look at it carefully it is actually quite a decent presentation in my opinion. Just the facts and no flim flam.
The site at a first glance looks dated and very early 00's. The colour scheme, the stripy background, the layout, the fact it isn't responsive (well it tries to be with a burger menu but fails), the GIF clipart (esp. the 'new' graphic and the flags).
As a prospective customer you might be a bit put off at first glance and think the software is dated too and go off looking for something newer.
The site is selling anything; complaining that the free gift comes in insufficiently fancy wrapping is tacky.
A lot of open source projects that are serious about the actual software have ugly websites or even nothing beyond a README.md on Github.
If it had a mobile version, I’d have run it, but I fully expect to only want to use it on larger format devices. I’m happy to be proved wrong, but I doubt a purely touch interface would ease creation of a model of my weird-shaped rooms.
I thought that a “low effort” comment would have zero feedback or attempt at insight of any kind. I also thought that bringing up ML might generate discussion about the future of design software so that’s why I threw it out there. That’s a big market opportunity that most people reading this on HN can take advantage of.
SPAs can be server-side rendered (See: Gatsby) and work without JavaScript enabled however.
This isn't about shinny visual, it's about what feeling someone gets when they visit the page.
I get the wrong feeling that it's old, because it use old trends. That impression will make me believe that the software is just as outdated, when actually it has been updated a few months ago.
Conversions are visitors turned into paying customers; since there is nothing offered for pay, the site has no conversions no matter what it does.
Well, unless you count donations, but you need to move the donate link, not the download link, to improve that.
> Make a mobile version, especially for tablets.
Maintaining an additional version is an additional cost. Since, again, this is a free offering with no monetization besides donations, and no obvious aspirations in that direction, suggesting additional costs are taken on seems entitled, or, at best, badly confused.
> combined with sites like Wayfair, IKEA, and Overstock.com, you can have a design --> purchase pipeline which is both convenient for consumers and beneficial for you via referral revenue.
Is there anything on the site indicating that the creator has any interest in building a marketing platform for retail outlets instead of free non-commercial tool?
If they do rule that way, it’ll be interesting to see how it conflicts with the DMCA related element allowing individuals to reverse engineer abandoned services
No.
Even if the Supreme Court rules in favor of Oracle in the Java-on-Android case (they probably won't), it has nothing to do with what the topic brought up by the person you're replying to.
It was released under the standard license, and the volunteer contributors are continuing to maintain that codebase under that same license. That's not at all like the Harmony/Android situation.
It is almost inevitable that after a few years you'll be dependent on deprecated or abandoned libraries and frameworks.
For for-profit projects, that's less of a problem than it might seem when stated that way. If your project is successful, the means of getting off the platform (or getting the owner to adapt it to your evolving needs, or doing so yourself, including acquiring any necessary permissions, or solving it some other way) are provided by that success.
(Heck, that's true if people understand the business case and reserve resources from the savings for projects that aren't for-profit but are internal cost saving measures, as well.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_sofa_problem
You should buy a Gerver sofa.
You have to make sure your data is accurate, for example wall thickness actually matters if you want an accurate drawing.
Split level designs require careful planning on how to separate the various levels.
It takes a little time to get used to how it "thinks".
Also be sure and install this plugin: http://www.sweethome3d.com/support/forum/viewthread_thread,1... it can be rather hard to make accurate drawings otherwise.
I was kinda thinking of something that maybe uses AR to measure/scan your house and turn it into a floor plan, was disappointed that it didn't really exist as far I looked.
[0] https://apps.apple.com/au/app/magicplan-2d-3d-floor-plans/id...
Australian too. We had a couple days where our normal CAD program went offline due to a bug in their license checker.
I used this to fill the gap.
I agree, it is great for homeowners to easily spitball reno ideas with a small learning curve, allowing you to share your vision with your spouse or architect.
I have used it in the past to model some property in 3D and use them on AirBnB and Facebook listings. The tenants and guests have always said that the mode was a major reason they decided to visit the property as it gave a clear idea of the size and proportion of the various rooms and amenities. Thanks SH3D.
I've actually used it to simulate/chose my furniture and furniture placement quite recently.
Here the result using the ray tracing renderer:
https://mirror.kakwalab.ovh/misc/Sejour_5.png
https://mirror.kakwalab.ovh/misc/Chambre_3.png
Yes, that's mostly Ikea furniture. And consequently the 3D models are likely to exists and can be grabbed from 3dwarehouse/sketchup.
Such a wonderful piece of software.
I used this successfully 7 years ago when moving into a small apartment to sort out furniture placement. Great product then at least!
Also check with your city - blueprints are on file going quite far back in many places.
1) I took a lot of photos - every space from multiple directions;
2) For each photo, I manually drew the "wireframe" of the space in Inkscape on a separate layer on top of the photo - wall/floor lines, doorways, windows, furniture;
3) I printed out the wireframe layers, grabbed a pencil and a measuring tape, and started to measure.
Step 2) could probably be semi-automated with some edge detection. Step 3) could probably be done if I had any recent experience doing photogrammetry. But fully manual solution wasn't that bad; I did my measurements over the course of a month, and finally made up a full floorplan in SweetHome3D with accurately sized furniture in one evening. This let my wife and me design a new furniture arrangement and buy appropriately sized movables in a single hour.
For people who, like me, lack the "mind's eye" and spatial imagination, having the flat digitized like this has immense value.
All 3 steps can be done automatically with magicplan.
However once you get the results you'll probably need to manually measure and adjust because it's not quite accurate enough. But it's a really good start.
For an exterior an inch or 2 of accuracy is fine, but for interiors you should try to be accurate to around 1/4 or 1/8 inch (.5 cm).
It doesn't take as long as you might think, especially if you have a helper.
Make a rough floor plan (on paper), then measure and mark each wall on the plan.
Then enter all that into the program, and just stare at it - make sure it looks right. (It's far too easy to mess up, or not do the wall thickness right.)
Then go back and measure the location of doors and windows (including height, and offset from the floor). Put all that in.
Resist the urge to put in furniture until you are mostly done.
If you have multiple levels things will be more complex - you will need to know floor thickness, and ceiling height.
Then I just double checked wall length with a tape measure, because I wanted 100% exact measurements, out of the box the app was 95% accurate. In my experience this is more than enough for the purposes of furniture placement planning and things like that, and it's pretty fast to do too.
I got a big A2 piece of paper to make a precise drawing at about 1:25 scale of the major walls. When dealing with things like wall thickness, I found that much easier than trying to enter my measurements directly in SweetHome3D, especially because I had never used it before, and the workflow takes some time getting used to.
I used to use it but since I have moved on to gltf 2.0 and it hasn't implemented that yet (only export to obj) I have focused on blender instead.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/dzoyav/fo...
The big problem with these is getting a big collection of 3D models of real furniture and keeping them current.
I am using floorplanner at the moment and I can't seem to figure out how to put a "half-storey" attic floor.
Plus floorplanner's community forum seems to be dead.
One time it even helped me correct "the expert from the shop" and avoid a costly mistake on my soon-to-be kitchen.
Highly recommended.
Wall: {
Start = x,y
End=x2,y2
Width = 9in
Height = 9ft
}Shelf: {
Ref=wall1, wall2
Start = ....
End = ...
Distancefromground=4ft
Height=3ft
Width=4ft
}I’ve designed my apartment with openjscad (which I find way easier than any UI tool when you have actual measures) and rendered it in blender.
Perhaps the rendering part is a bit more work, but in the home redesign space a few hours doesn’t really count...