Is "The Boys" really deep and insightful look at human nature, or just continuing to indulge in material meant for kids with more violence and nudity to make you feel more grown up while watching it?
I love comic books by the way. But it's meant as simple escapist pleasure where you know at the end the good guys win. Making them anti-heroes and upping the "transgressive" content while keeping all hte other tropes doesn't automatically make it deep art.
If anything it is a satire on the trope and that’s it
I like the anti-hero in tights trope, it makes them more grounded
The new recruit going through with sexual harassment while being praised by her family and fans for being recruited? Wanting to be mad but also being a sexual being?
There is no grand lesson just a story, one relatable to a broadening audience
1. They all lied, all the time, in different ways 2. There is zero trust between anyone. 3. I don't recall any female nudity (perhaps I've become more numb to it?) There was male nudity. 4. Even the "good guys" are terrible people. No one likes them, they are just as big of jerks as the "Heros". Main Character has PTSD from Episode One and it only gets worse (due to his own choices and actions).
It goes to the opposite extreme running the a basic premise of "everyone is a person", everyone has faults, everyone has needs.
The "best moral character" is perhaps Starlight, and she's abused, co-dependent on her mother, and struggling to come to terms with her new job requirements asking her to lie and confronting childhood beliefs and cultures (homophobia, premarital sex). In the show thus far: no one has dealt with their baggage. No one's trying to in a health way (The Deep might be an exception as he's seen talking with a Therapist, but he's far from "good").
Without having read the comics: I'm not sure the "good" guys win. The protagonist wins. The "factually right" guy wins. But even that has yet to happen in the show.
https://popula.com/2019/02/24/about-face/
It is terrifying. And definitely related to the cultural meanings of the current obsession with superheroes of various sorts that Moore is talking about.
People with powers have their behavior explained, the good guys are far from perfect. The world is a dark place, dead protagonists stay dead (and it's not the worse which can happen) and the cause of the powers is explained. This kind of take on superheroes make the Marvel and DC universes bland.
To give some examples -- one of the protagonists of Ward is gay, as are two of the antagonists. One of the protagonists is trans. One is black. Two are Hispanic. One of the side characters (a hero) is a recovering homophobe. Another side character is a white supremacist who's trying to turn over a new leaf.
One of the main villain groups in Worm are white supremacists -- and one of the heroes is a kid who leaves that life. Two of the protagonist villains (brother and sister) are black. There's a lesbian couple -- one a hero, one a rogue/villain. There's a character who I think would be called genderqueer? One of the protagonists is asexual.
It sounds like a lot, but there's a huge cast of characters, and it never felt tacked-on to me.
And so much of the story is about really, really traumatic stuff. It's really dark, sometimes horrifying, sometimes tragic, sometimes awesome, and overall really gripping. It's sort of ruined mainstream superhero media for me -- it seems so flat and predictable in comparison.
Highly recommended.
I'll know when its gone too far when they make "Crossed" into a TV series.