Hong Kong Protestors Take over Universities and Financial District
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I'm all for opposing our communist overlords, but they might not be convinced to listen if we hurl molotov and cry at birds rather than show a reasonable front, which is what ended the extradition law in the first place.
Right but you need a warrant, which the police did not have and never got, because they weren't there to arrest anyone in particular, because they had no cause, because this is a terror tactic.
> second it seems the number of petrol bombs (I heard 400) was enormous pointing to some large capacity being built up there
It's real easy to build a molotov, especially if you have a bunch of protestors working in an assembly line. Which is fortunate, because that's probably the only thing that kept the cops from arresting scores of innocent students to be beaten and raped in jail.
People have the right to defend themselves. HKPF are genuinely a threat to Hongkongers and have lost all legitimacy. It's a true tragedy, but the time for excuses and apologists is past.
Personally I haven't yet imagined a way out that satisfies all sides. The fear of police seems deeply ingrained in the population and no current or former protester believes they would be treated fairly if the movement abandons any of the demands. The government, fearful of reprisal from the ruthless Beijing elite, are unwilling to grant any concessions to the protest demands. The police are also deeply fearful of an independent judicial investigation into their activities, and must maintain a state of disorder, increasing the government's dependence on police so that they will not launch an investigation. It seems like the situation has reached a Nash equilibrium and the whole ship is doomed to continue sinking.
You don't take over your home or office because you f*king own it.
PS: I am shocked by this activity. Even during the communism revolution, the government has left the university intact. The HK policy lost their mind...
So I suspect it's all interior forces, not PLA.
The real aim was probably the students. Public perception, especially among the mainland camp, is that this is mostly a youth protest (but from what I've heard, it's far from solely a youth protest). Back in August, they were all saying that the protests would die down and fizzle out once the semester started (which obviously didn't end up happening). In their eyes, the educated youth are the ones "driving" the protests. In their eyes, taking and suppressing the university would be a strike at the core of the pro-HK movement. That didn't work, and now their move is backfiring into further publicity and support for Hong Kong.
What would the world look like if we could dial back the level of colonialism over the last 2k years? Hong Kong makes a case for such cross-pollination as a human accelerant.
Just last night I felt guilty for buying something made in China but still did it again... and there certainly wasn't an alternative made anywhere else on the shelf
was it a needed thing or a wanted thing? if the former, consider making it yourself & selling it as a not-from-china product