John's Phone: a minimalist cell phone
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Play it again, John, this time with a pager sized (text) display and I'll buy one.
edit: added the (text), it does have a display but can't display text messages.
Basic Nokia phones that don't do much more than calls and SMS and that are very simple to operate and very sturdy, can be found (new) for around EUR 20.
To be honest, this doesn't seem to be a phone for children or the elderly (neither of which have some sort of cognitive short circuit that keeps them from grasping a simple Nokia while allowing them to embrace the idioms of this particular phone) -- but rather a phone for hipsters who need to very loudly announce that they don't have an iPhone.
"John's Phone: It's not an iPhone or anything. You've probably never heard of it."
My grandmother couldn't figure out how to work the new radio we got her - which just had two giant large dials. We got her a dead-simple cell phone and it was never used.
One thing she does know how to do is use the 12 button landline phone thats mounted on her wall, and this looks exactly like that and works nearly exactly like that. This would be perfect for her.
Except for the two small switches on the side, having to charge it, and having to push pick-up and hang-up instead of lifting and replacing the receiver.
Maybe we could get her to drop it in her keychain bowl when she comes home, and outfit it with one of the charging pads.
(disclaimer: I'm culturally close enough to the people here to get to say that ;) )
The thing is a rock.
http://www.reghardware.com/2010/12/03/ten_essential_cheap_vo...
It was £0.99 when I bought it, and has been as low as £0.01 recently - with the only catch being that you have to buy £10 worth of prepaid airtime when you buy the phone. Ideal for a couple of weeks' travel in a foreign country. (It's SIM-unlocked too.)
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/1058/302405/nokia-...
and here a samsung:
http://www.pixmania.nl/nl/nl/3598464/art/samsung/e1080.html?...
for a little less
I only have to charge it every week or so, and it has lasted longer than any other phone I have had.
Not for everyone. For example, I send one text message every two or three months. I could easily live without the ability to send or receive texts.
The thing I don’t like about this phone is the silly pen-and-paper address book. Are there any phones out there that just make phone calls, and nothing else?
Email and Skype on my phone, however, I could not do without.
Strikes me to have two major markets: (1) people who only want to talk to people via phones (e.g. some of the elderly) and (2) as a fashionable item. The gold one would be a head-turner and topic of conversation.
Some people want to get rid of SMS from their way of life (or never adopted it in the first place), and hark back for simpler times. This phone appeals to that.
When it comes to phones I go through alternating phases of high-tech and as simple as it gets, mostly because I get frustrated at how bad high tech phones usually work as phones (they're great little computers, but I mostly use my phone to call).
SMS is no longer optional, even if you want to get rid of it, typically service messages are only sent using SMS, not voice and people will simply assume that even if you didn't respond that you still read their SMS message saying they'll be an hour late.
It's like with businesses and FAX, you may never send one but people pretty much used to assume that you were at least capable of receiving them.
False! Perhaps for your way of life, but there's the age-old 'you != everyone'. Once your friends know you don't text, they stop texting you. They may think you're a Luddite, but that's another issue.
Even though you (and me for that matter) may want SMS on phones, I don't think it was a poor design choice to skip SMS on this phone.
I really really tried, but apparently your friends respect you better than mine do me :)
I don't mind being known as a Luddite ;)
And they'll be wrong.
And an hour late.
I would argue that politeness requires the sender to contact the receiver in a manner of the receiver's choosing, not the sender's, while the receiver should not go to extremes to avoid the sender.
Lack of SMS is the normal, passive state and since there is no legal or social requirement to have it, I wouldn't consider not having it impolite at all.
Odd, perhaps, if one takes the receiver's demographic into account, but not impolite.
Maybe it could have a scanner, too, so that you could write SMS on paper and feed it to the phone.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Mobile-Phone-with-a-Built...
Wasn't there a James Bond movie where a strip of paper came out of the side of a wristwatch?
The back of each John’s Phone features a flap with an address book behind it. The left of the flap contains an opening with a small pen: these two unique accessories allow you to update your address file at any time, even when your phone is switched off.
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Nokia_1100__Review_5583589
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100
If it had SMS capability and a small display how would this John's phone be better than for example Nokia 1100?
The nokia wont make other pitchfork readers jealous down at the coffeeshop.
It does have an excuse for being so bad -- it's designed to be used by people who cannot read.
However I found something just about as cheap from NewEgg, this one has a colour display:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875209...
Maybe you're more careful than I am, but when I used PDAs I ended up buying several replacement styluses because I kept dropping them in weird spots and losing them in spite of being careful not to.
If it's not attached to the device permanently it tends to get lost over time.
I really think that a paper phonebook is cute but impractical, and this phone strikes me as aimed at practical people, not people looking for 'hello kitty' like cute little phonebooks.
Also, my handwriting is atrocious :)
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I have at least 5 spare styluses somewhere that I bought with various devices because I was afraid I'd lose the original ones, yet never did once in 10+ years of use.
I'm sure there are some pretty switched on grand parents out there, but I don't fancy the idea of sending my grandmother an SMS. I'd need to call her and no doubt visit her to explain the whole SMS thing.
I have a friend with a parent who is getting on in years, she described a device very similar to this "If only something like this existed" - I've just sent her the link, I imagine a purchase will follow soon after.
(in 2010, I received and sent 6 txt messages, 3 people texting me, and 3 responses from me telling them to email me instead)
Actually, I think those are called tracfones, but they have a stigma of being used by only elderly people. Dang it.
According to the specs it's just callerid / outgoing call
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/johns-phone-review-the-wo...
> So, how did it work? Well, to make and receive calls it worked fine. The ringer was suitably loud and the vibration was strong enough to get noticed in a pocket. The audio quality during calls was also decent -- not spectacular but not awful either.
So is the John's Phone "The world's simplest cellphone." No. The fact that all three of the device's switches are so frustrating to use is simply unforgivable on such a basic cellphone that's supposedly rooted in "great design." We wish that the company had spent as much time on the phone's industrial design as it did on its slick promotional materials and cutesy graphics. Even then, you'd better be sure that the simplicity is worth the €70 - €100 price tag (depending upon model) -- for that you could take home a fully-loaded 3G featurephone from Nokia. A nod, perhaps, as to why the John's Phone exists.
Even if the only thing you want to do with your phone is make phone calls, you still need to:
1. Turn the phone on when you want to make a call
2. Turn the phone off, or lock it, when you don't want to make any more calls
We used to have quite small phones in the turn of 90's—00's but now that the smartphones are everywhere, and even for non-smartphones everyone is assumed to want internet and lots of features, the current phones are so big and come with such a big screens that my first Nokia 1611 has stopped looking like stoneage in comparison.
Something similar to MacBook Air but a phone would be cool.
Thickness closer to 5mm than 10mm. Slightly larger than a USB stick. A clamshell design would be a must to make it long enough to reach both ears and proximity to mouth. Something that you can certainly lose in your pocket, something almost invisible.
We could certainly manufacture those these days.
What came out were ludicrously small phones that made dialing and usage a pain.
There's a limit to how small phones can get before they get downright unusable. I remember back then some even had voice dialing to compensate, which was - and still is - just a plain bad idea.
Granted, if I did have a smartphone, or was a "power user" of my current phone, then perhaps I'd feel the same way as you do.
"If you love it simple" is their tag-line, but I don't really see anything simple about having to reference a piece of paper and then dial a 13 digit number each time I want to call home.
"You can allocate 10 speed dial numbers, each under one of the ten digits. You can allocate a telephone number (in this case, 0612345678) to a speed-dial number (in this case 1) by entering: * * 1 * 0612345678#. Subsequently, hold down the ‘1’ button for two seconds to automatically call the telephone number entered. To delete the speed-dial number in the above example, enter * * 1 * #. If you wish to alter a telephone number allocated to a speed-dial number, simply write over it with the new number."
I used to remember pretty much all the phone numbers of all my relatives and people I'm in contact with, even the international ones but with the coming of cell phones something else has happened: people switch phone numbers far more frequently today than they did in the past and the ability to re-program the phone but keep the mnemonic the same is actually far more useful than a piece of paper.
The iPhone has only one button.. seems even more minimalist.
Cheap? You can pick up a cheap pay-and-go phone here in the UK for about £25 ($50) or less :)
And it handles text messaging.
I'm not sure it is even good for old people - from the engadget review it looks very fiddly.
At 99 euros, they can forget it.
Think Vertu, but not crap and designed by someone with actual taste and not stupidly priced and...OK, so perhaps not Vertu.
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-access...
Shame! There are plenty of 'genuine' ones on ebay if you want to risk it.
ZTE S202
Specs: http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/products/mobile/mobile_detail_291...
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CClXKPRDzLI&feature=playe...
The price is 70 euros. The buttons have nice a tactile feedback, it has a screen and even looks okay.
Sure, this thing has a better branding, nicer website but the product itself is inferior and costs more.
I even made a handy contacts parser for it: https://github.com/radiosilence/ZTEcontactsparse
If it wasn't too big and heavy, I'd order it right now!
Also hardening and a large battery would increase weight (though I don't know if this is how it's heavy).
why is this? cant it just be "HIGH" and "LOW".
http://www.johnsphones.com/store/johns-address-book/item89
i'm all for minimalist designs, this phone seems to segment a very niche user base that is only interested in using phones to call people, however small that is, i'm sure there's a market. though the price point conflicts with this as i feel people in this market segment are probably looking for low price as well.
some additional comments, a video on the webpage would be nice showing the interface for navigating through an address book or adding contacts. i think the dial buttons are nice, but imho the slide buttons on the side of the phone are a bit arcane, perhaps individual buttons would be more modern.
i'm actually quite attracted to the general design of the phone, the keypad is laid out quite simply, the lcd at the top is out of the way and quite utilitarian. i'm a smartphone user myself (nokia e72), but i'd love to have this phone if it included bluetooth and i'm quite curious as to the ease of use of the phonebook because i really hate storing numbers by keypad. based on the design, it'd be nice if you offered a higher end john's phone, let's say you added bluetooth, a 5 MP camera, and a micro SD storage slot, you'd have a pretty good shot at getting some premiums for people that are looking for something fresh in comparison to iphone/android.
Two years ago I did a "simple phone" concept. Mine was touched based. Never progressed it, to busy with other things. I find it funny that somebody did.
Here was my rough design. http://bit.ly/fTz643
I like it that my WinPhone7 pulls phone numbers from my Outlook (office email), Facebook or Windows live. Making an acquintance online and automatically having the number in my phonebook is natural and works.
I think we need some more time with smart before simple gets niche again.
I swear, i never thought it would come tothat. Dunno why it won't work if my iPhone works :/
But it seems to be more of minimalist hipster gadget. As such it really does need some form display. I don't know anyone under 50 who doesn't SMS.
perhaps implement a solid text to speech service for converting texts to auditory messages
EDIT: Reminder to self - don't try to be funny.
This model's design is interesting in how clearly it speaks about what demography it's aimed at: http://www.doro.co.uk/products/Mobile-phones-and-accessories...
http://www.livingroom.org.au/cameraphone/images/thumbnails/1...