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Steve Jobs Is Dead

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"I started the @tesla_truth Twitter handle on November 27, 2018 to refute the disinformation campaign orchestrated by a group of Tesla short sellers who called themselves “$TSLAQ”, noting their intent to bankrupt the company in order to make money betting against the stock."

1. This is a truly bizarre take on what shorting is, but Musk describes shorting in a similar way, so I guess it's not surprising that a fanboy ate it up.

2. You don't need a disinformation campaign to short Tesla. You can be a long Tesla shareholder and that is A-OK. You can also look at Tesla's valuation & current financials and think holy moly, what are these people smoking. Welcome to the free market, where we collectively price things based on the interplay between these 2 groups.

3. I can guarantee you that only some statistically insignificant number of shorters care if Tesla goes bankrupt or not. They, in their judgement, see a market opportunity where Tesla is overpriced, and they're calling it. Some of these people might be Tesla owners or fans, who cares.

Then the rest of the article is just a general screed / immature clickbait stuff (like, I don't know, putting "Steve Jobs is Dead" for clicks or whatever). People need to grow up.

Exactly this - sounds like he wound up the other guy enough for him to constantly click spam on each of his tweets.

Naming his account as he did made it easy for Twitter to ban him

Obviously all of this is kind of wrong.

Short-term prices aren't driven by fundamentals, but by rumors/sentiment/herding. So thinking that a bunch of short sellers might orchestrate a rumor campaign against a volatile stock isn't much of a stretch.

I wouldn't hark on the bankruptcy semantics. Obviously, the original statement doesn't necessarily mean that the bankruptcy will be the result of short selling.

This kind of thing is done on occasion. I remember the same being done to Newbridge at the start of the tech bubble, including short-sellers arranging damaging interviews with people who claimed they were executives with the company. It's far easier now with social media.

It's not just Tesla either Facebook, and I believe Microsoft as well were caught paying for entities to harm Google's reputation. There are vast amounts of money involved.

1. As I read it the quoted text doesn’t describe or attempt to define shorting. It describes a subset of short sellers. Straw-man?

2. Again, I see no contradiction here.

3. Why does this matter? The article is about censorship on Twitter. If there is just one shorter that can censor Twitter for market manipulation purposes, then that’s a problem, right?

Does anyone know if this guy was actually genuinely debunking Tesla myths? Or was this just another guy crazily fighting on one side of a seemingly ridiculous twitter fight?

He was one of many of Elon Musk’s astroturfing accounts; just propaganda, nothing more.

The title is pure click bait.

Yep, would recommend mods rename it to something like "My Twitter account was banned due to Short selling trolls" or something that actually described what the article is about.

I like that one of the suspensions the author complains about was for impersonation... then they prove why Twitter was absolutely right to call out their "satirical" impersonation with such a clickbait title

It seemed to to me to be an obvious foreshadow to a punchline.

Using a display name like "Steve Jobs" makes it look like a troll account, misleading at the least, getting blocked isn't that much surprising.

You have to restart without trying to get a boost using popular figure's name or photo.

I think in this case it's obviously a joke, because, you know... Steve Jobs is Dead.

The most insidious part of this is that it’s so boring. That means people can rules lawyer to precipitate bans and unless there’s some high profile person, I find it hard to maintain interest through all the details.

Is that a screenshot from iPhone where it says "5G"? I thought no iPhones supported 5G at all yet. What's going on?

It's not really 5G; just an AT&T marketing gimmick. https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html

It's a marketing ploy by AT&T to label some kind of slightly better (maybe?) 4G as 5G, kinda like when phones started to say 4G which didn't mean 4G LTE.

AFAIK this is deceptive marketing from AT&T: https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e...

Everyone gets their twitter account suspended if they don't confirm their email address. It is not some conspiracy against you.

There's a substantial difference between a normal suspension that is "routine" and can get lifted automatically and quickly, vs. being told you're suspended permanently, can't appeal, and isn't allowed to try to register new accounts.

I don't know anything about the article, but I know Twitter suspended my account immediately after confirming my email and following 1 person. I appealed and they restored it, I logged in and they immediately suspended my account again with no explanation. I don't think it's a conspiracy, just that their automated bots can be trolls

Interesting article. Title needs changing, but flagging seems unnecessary.

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