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I'm a man, and for the life of me I don't get how people are feeling personally attacked by feminism. Same with racism: I just don't connect these issues with me as an individual. And I've never experienced an interaction where others have done so, either. I've been to any number of feminist events with my partner, and nobody ever made a negative comment rooted in the fact that I'm a man.

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I supported feminism as it was originally explained to me, as against violent and abusive dictatorial strictly patriarchal systems insidiously designed to suppress and oppress minority viewpoints and ways.

But since then I've realized there are many other things that feminism means to people. It's not a great label as it doesn't mean anything in particular. Some variants are definitely bigoted hate against a certain gender. I don't agree with those. Diffusion of label-meaning: what can be done about this. For me... be a label-skeptic. Irrelevant, though no one cares. Only mindless labels matter in the great big wide world.

Totally understand where you are coming from. My wife and I tend to see modern feminism as a way to tell males that being masculine is bad while simultaneously telling females that being feminine is bad. Seems like the same pay for the same work aspects of the movement are where they should instead focus.

Likewise politically, I’m for individual liberty for all adults but not for an anemic taxation system for the rich.

I guess that makes me a centrist these days?

Be a male at school today, in most of the Western world, and you will experience misandry by your teachers.

People that have sexual trauma are trivially easy to trigger with large shows of political power or 'abuse' around sex. It worked on me when I was younger. The only solution is to get your sex life in order and some of the people engaged in that debate are doing just that.

I often ask the same question. But apparently so many feel personally attacked by feminism that you’ve been downvoted into oblivion.

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