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Show HN: Calculate your chances of getting a work visa to live in top countries

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Of course you require an email address to calculate that. In the last step of the form. A form that asked me for information which is very relevant for targeting me with adds.

just use https://temp-mail.org/ for thinks like that.

I always use temp mail when random website asks me for my email

Creator here. Thanks so much for this. I agree this is not very clear right now. If you scroll down you will see a mention and button to my immigration newsletter, that's supposed to show up as the 2nd step.

Thanks again for the feedback, I've just added a copy to explain that but I need to re-think the entire sign-up flow.

Edit: Mentioned that I have now updated the copy.

AT THE VERY LEAST, indicate WHAT you intend to do with it. Is it strictly to give me my results ? Is it for further contact on this matter ? Is it for marketing material on this product ? On other products you have ? Is it for third party marketing material (all to the way to good old spam) ? Is it to resell it along with the other infos ? What control or limit do you place on third party who access it ?

When nothing is said or obvious to find, I assume the worst, and so I didn't complete your form.

Without any clear and obivous indication as to what you intend to use said address for / if you plan to resell it / whatever ...

My friend a@aol.com is getting some more spam from this site which allowed me to see the results, but even then it's not very useful (yet).

It only calculates odds for 5 countries at the momenet: US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, UK; which also really isn't revealed until the very end.

Thank you. Just a clarification:

We send absolutely no spam. As explained in other comments, this is a regular website sign-up (the copy is now improved to be clear about the e-mail) and after the results, we hope to see you in our immigration newsletter [0] via Substack (a company funded by YC and A16Z).

[0]: https://duoflag.substack.com

Please mention upfront that you require an email address so I can avoid losing two minutes of my life.

Edit: Only if you are the author of this site, of course :)

Thank you, it makes sense to me. I've just adjusted the copy.

That is definitely a helpful service. Here are some suggestions.

  Provide the metrics considered for the score

  Consider suggestions on how to improve the score

  Why email id when you are not ready with a premium service to offer

Thanks so much!

Spot on, after I add support to more destination countries, it will be interesting to provide personalised suggestions.

As for the e-mail address, down the page, we talk about the substack newsletter [0], but I need to do a better job to communicate that and possibly review the flow.

[0]: https://duoflag.substack.com/

Hi,

Thank you for your work! As you know, there is collective fatigue when asked to hand over info to third parties just to see another cycle of privacy concerns, subscription schemes, and breaches. We're so exhausted.

Expect questions and pushback, because when the big companies start to care about the privacy message, they've seen the trends.

I'd recommend Mailchimp which is at least well-known. Otherwise yeah, make the purpose of collecting our addresses very, very clear.

Thanks so much, that's really helpful. I think it's just a communication issue, as other users suggested, I need to explain it better up-front.

I'm using Substack [0] which is funded by YC and a16z, what do you think?

[0]: https://www.substack.com

That email requirement though... I understand that having an email list is valuable, but I'm wondering what exactly you're planning on doing with it? I'm stuck in a load circle after hitting submit so I'm unsure if you need email validation at this time.

Edit: I see below now confirm etc. etc. mastermind group etc. etc.

According to this, a US citizen has a 54% chance of being able to work in the United States. That's great, thanks.

As a US citizen, I got 100% for the US, which seemed correct.

Creator here. Thanks for giving it a go.

Some countries use a points-based immigration system [0], which makes it easier to do the basic calculation. For the others, I have to create an internal set of rules based on skill shortages and the general availability of immigration programs.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Points-based_immigration_syste...

Instead of providing your real email: https://www.guerrillamail.com/

Second, I entered that I have a US Citizenship and #1 country where I'm 100% likely to get a work visa, was the United States. Not exactly a revelation.

I'm an Irish citizen and it gives me an 87% chance of getting a work visa for the UK, where Irish citizens have the right to work, study and vote in certain elections, as well as to access social welfare benefits and health services.

As someone with a "complicated" situation interested in migrating, i'd love to use this once it's got a bit more meat.

I'm a C-Level of a successful startup in Germany and have been for nearly 5 years now, have been programmer and other roles before that, all in all >10 years of experience in IT, but have quit my studies so technically my A-levels are the highest form of education.

I get wildly different results on the question where to I could migrate depending on which immigration lawyers I ask, so a centralized platform that helps me work towards my migration goal would be very welcome!

Thank you for the feedback. In Australia and some other countries, your experience will be enough. In Australia, specifically [0], for most tech occupations, 8+ years of experience can replace a formal degree.

[0] https://www.acs.org.au/msa/skills-faqs.html

Cool idea However, don't want to enter my email in... Sorry.

I just entered some garbage e-mail address, it showed me the result after that.

Some feedback: the simple leaderboard and percentage chance is a good indicator and in my case the choices were relevant. I would suggest to make it more useful you have a click through on each country that highlights the pros and cons of those countries and even better linking to how it affects your chances. For example in my case New Zealand is particularly looking for software engineers.

Clicking directly in the countries is a great idea. I will play with it, thank you!

Cool tool. I just tried it, got some results, but I'm not getting much more info than just the countries. I'd like to know why do you show me this results, what are the benefits and options that make this countries have a bigger chance than others.

Thanks.

I don't believe there are visa requirements between EU countries, you might want to fix that (maybe skip the EU countries for EU citizen, or give 100%?)

Great point. I'm currently giving it the same weight as other bilateral agreements (e.g. Chile and Australia) but it should be a different category. Thank you!

I don't just want to see the top 5 countries, I want to see every country for which you have data. Why are they greyed out?

It lets you click "next" while missing an answer without letting you go back to fix it.

Entered a gibberish email and was still able to see the results, you can just try that.

Email requirement? No thanks.

> We may use your Personal Information to contact you with newsletters, marketing or promotional materials and other information that may be of interest to you. You may opt out of receiving any, or all, of these communications from us by following the unsubscribe link or instructions provided in any email we send.

What about GDPR?

Currently seeing: 504 Gateway Time-out

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