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So much for the 4th amendment. It seems that most of america only cares about the second.

There are specific legal exemptions to the 4th amendment for the CBP, allowing them to do searches when crossing the border. The question here is if these exemptions apply, as the person in question was not crossing the border.

Those exemptions (which existed as you describe them for quite a while) were widened after 9/11 to give them those same powers when interacting with anyone within 100 miles of the board.

Interesting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception).

Does anyone know if/how this applies to international airports(as is the case in this story) , and/or our coasts?

You don't get the 2nd amendment at the border either.

I don't believe many of the things the border patrol does is actually intended in law. They like to claim it is, even bring out all sorts of papers, but in reality its stretching the whole idea so far it wraps around space-time. Border inspections were written in the constitution to support finding people who are avoiding duties and tariffs.

If the 2nd ammendment didn't apply at "The Border" (aka the 100 mile wide 'constitution free zone'), then perhaps there wouldn't be such a zone

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/styles/scale_1200w/...

It's actually worse than this; this map neglects the zones around international airports.

IIRC they asked for those but they didn't get them because the other federal law enforcement gangs didn't want their turf encroached on. Did that change?

I’d say it is the other way around. The ACLU is an example:

https://reason.com/2019/04/12/the-aclu-defends-the-rights-of...

Didn't the ACLU recently have a memo leak that suggested they wouldn't defend the free speech rights of people carrying guns?

ACLU will stop defending the right of assembly to people who intend to be armed, and their reasoning is... reasonable. They've been very active in supporting the other 1st, 4th, 14th amendment rights of gun owners and have given no indication that is changing.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACL...

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