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Comment by alwillis | Hacker News Reader

Every .0 release for iOS and OSX has been buggy. Every single one.

I've run and tested every release going back to 2001 and it's been a while since a macOS release has been this buggy and caused serious data loss in some cases.

So even for .0 release, this has been pretty bad.

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May I be Goldilocks? I’ve used basically every iOS beta. Beta 1 is always AWFUL. Then it gets better and better. iOS 13 is probably the worst, but only incrementally so. It’s hardly worth having a fuss.

It's not a beta, it's what they encourage their users to upgrade to

I know. I’m talking about iOS 13 beta 1.

If you think this is what a bad OS looks like, you should try that.

iOS 12 beta 1 was a lot better, FWIW.

I must be some kind of unicorn then. I used iOS 13 betas since beta 1 and never encountered any problems. In contrast, I recall having all sorts of problems with iOS 9, 10, and either 11 or 12 (but not both). In one of these other betas, GPS was effectively completely broken on all AT&T iPhone X for the two week beta.

There was the data-loss bug that plagued the Snow Leopard release.

And Snow Leopard was supposed to be a feature-light release to improve quality!

It eventually was very solid and is well-regraded today. But yeah, it’s a great example of the risk of the OSX.0 release.

Personally I try to wait until version ~4 of anything Apple. I’ve been very happy following this strategy.

Have you forgotten about the release that melted hardware?

Melted.

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