CME Group Statement on Vanity Fair Article
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Edited to add the HN link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21278009
Say what you will about government agencies, the SEC takes insider trading very seriously and they are very well equipped to deal with it. Something so obvious happens from time to time but rarely works. At least not on a scale to move markets (a couple million here and there is nothing in grand scheme of things but even that gets caught). I’m a little skeptical here.
Dealing in securities (in the case of TFA, futures on broad index funds) in general on non-public information is not itself insider trading, as I understand it.
There's lots of non-public information, even on specific companies, that one can legally trade on (provided they did not abuse a confidence themselves, such as an entirely outside party doing deep research on an investment).
In Europe, I think insider trading tends to be a more broad classification.
My colleagues would get called away for hours, days explaining how our systems worked, how we verified it. etc. I recall some had to go testify in court about them!
There is literally nothing of substance. They saw something that happens basically every week, a few hours before Trump did something!
Maybe the article is intended to discredit the idea by making a stupid case for it.
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
"the evidence for this conspiracy theory is not even that sometimes there were big futures trades shortly before big geopolitical events. The evidence for this conspiracy theory is that there were futures trades shortly before big geopolitical events. Like, a lot of futures contracts traded, but not all in one big trade. Not one person buying 386,000 contracts, but 386,000 contracts trading, in thousands of individual trades between unrelated traders. The evidence for the theory is essentially “people traded S&P futures the day before weird Trump stuff happened.” But people trade S&P futures every day! Lots of them! Billions and billions of dollars’ worth, in lots of trades! It’s an incredibly active and liquid market! This is … I mean, this is what a market is. People buy stocks, and people sell stocks, and if you just add up all the people who buy stocks before the stock market goes up then they will have made a lot of money, but that’s not because they were all tipped off, it’s because there is no other way anything could possibly work, come on."
The fact that the Vanity Fair article is just making the assertion that separate trades belong to the same person without explaining how they know this is pretty strong evidence that the journalist is just making shit up. Or at least is being hoodwinked by a supposed expert who is just making shit up.
I'd be like me claiming that every single slot machine jackpot in Vegas last Tuesday was won by the same person. Then when I get challenged to provide evidence of it, saying "no, you provide evidence that it wasn't."
You can’t have a broker issuing orders on your exchange without knowing who they are for and who were the individuals involved in requesting and approving the trade.
JPM has also a responsibility in ensuring the trades it issues through its brokers aren’t tainted with insider trading.
CME is also pretty pedantic in regards to who can trade on its platform.
Overall looking at the historical trade data there doesn’t seem to be any unusual trading patterns in the trades that VF reported as suspicious either in volume or position.
As far as the last minute trade goes this is very common not only on Fridays but at the end of every trading day where traders push a large number of trades just before the bell hits it’s pretty common practice it’s pretty much like taking out the trash.
Note also that Vanity Fair used an extraordinarily loose definition of "group"; they don't mention any evidence that traders were collaborating, other than that they made the same trade near the same time.
* https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-17/wall-stre...
I'm all for freedom of the press, but in recent years there's complete lack of accountability, where people write complete bullshit, _knowing_ it's not true, to chase the clicks or score political points, and then retract it on the back page days later, or not at all. And of course, nobody reads the retractions. There needs to be a modicum of fact checking applied to all this, as it was, say, 20 years ago.
First of all, Trump tweets a lot. You wonder if he does anything else.
Second, the market trades a lot. S&P minis are possibly the most liquid market anyone can think of (10yr future? Dunno).
Third, a lot of derivs trades are misunderstood. For example, when I was running a fund someone sent me an article suggesting China had abandoned capitalism. Their evidence was a massive open interest in some S&P put strike. Turned out it was just a big box trade, which by its nature can take up a lot more contracts than risky bets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_spread_(options)
My main thought about these big trades is they might well be hedges. Perhaps someone running an ETF or other index linked product managed to land some customers and needed to match the exposure.
In any case, I doubt it's insider trading. The regulators are very good at finding even very small cases. You read about it now and again that someone who isn't even in the US got busted making themselves a few hundred grand.
I am not a trader, but I have anecdotally come across many instances where minutes or hours before a company releases big stock-moving news, the stock price creeps up or down in the direction that the news will eventually move the stock. It seems like insider trading is rampant.
> That’s not insider trading, thats market sentiment being correct.
In the instances I have seen, the news that came out was not expected to come out at the time it did. It was not a scheduled quarterly report or public filing: these were surprise announcements. The market moving up or down before-hand seemed like pretty obvious proof of insider trading.
Beside, who said the short there is not profit taken or people bailing out or even arbitrary trades.
CME transactions are anonymized in the market data feed there is a seller for every buyer, but one side is an aggressor or initiator. Now even if they are aggregating initiator transactions in a specific direction it is perhaps slightly more meaningful and could indicate a rush of orders from an informed trader or group of traders. However most likely these journalists are clueless and have been misinformed by some amateurs.
It's like when people get excited that someone buys a LOT of put options on, say, Apple. But you don't know that someone's portfolio! Perhaps they already own a ridiculous amount of Apple stock. And the option seller may instantly hedge by getting an appropriate amount of short AAPL.
I think this article is a bit over-hyped. I know in my circle we sorta joke that trump trades on his tweets, or has cronies/staffers/friends that do, and he probably does. I'm sincerely not sure how anyone would know for sure, that's beyond me.
In any case, by the time things hit the exchange it's mostly just brokers and market makers. There's few "people" that trade directly on exchanges. Some big firms, sure. But I doubt any one person profited heavily from this. Another thing to remember, you've gotta have the money to actually buy all these in the first place and that's a lot put on the table. 82k contracts at the money, about a month out right now would cost me ~$84mm. I'm sure insiders get better margin rates than me but that still gives some idea as to the barrier of entry for this kind of trade.
If the traders expected a large move, why trade all at the final hours? Why not spread the volume over a few hours or, hell, even days like the article alleges they had on occasions?
There's entire teams of people at large brokerages and banks that work specifically on hiding their large trades among the normal volume, so competitors don't intentionally try to ride the large, incoming volume. Any coordinated effort would've probably participated in such a process or done something similar.
The article also mentions just the futures, but doesn't say what strike and expiry. Depending on these, it greatly effects the actual outcome and cost of entry. These would also be interesting bits of journalism as it would speak to the level of risk assumed in these bets: way in the money = safe, way out = risky, short-dated=risky, far-out=safe. This suggests to me that the author doesn't really know how these contracts work?
Similarly, these types of securities are a more of a zero-sum game than equities, someone was on the losing side of those trades and they thought whatever position they took was worth the premium paid to them. There's really no "averaging down" in derivatives in the same way as equities, they expire and so does their value. Again, how quickly this happens depends on the contract expiry which the author omitted.
Lastly, derivatives traders love volatility. This presidency and recent world events have created lots of volatility. It's no surprise these contracts are seeing lots of activity.
I guess I just don't really see the plausibility to this and the article itself is painfully uninformative.
Somewhat related story time:
I used to sit and watch the pit the e minis traded in close on occasion--always kinda quiet towards the end of the day until the very end when things picked up. E minis still got quite a bit of volume through the pits at the time. Trading in my own time years later--much of the volume is on the open and the close electronically as well.
Going to meetups with pit traders, I remember a few here and there getting blitzed and rambling about market makers front-running them somehow and being able to out compete them because "AI" and "algorithms." But really they just moved faster and could act on more data than small shops or retail.
The CTO of a market-maker gave a talked I attended and he described how people yelling and arguing in the pits was such an obvious battle at the "forefront of capitalism" and people sort of understood and accepting of that. However, the fear the silence and all that they don't know about the computer and it's algorithms.-- I think all people somewhat fear finance, derivatives especially, in the same sort way. What you don't understand or see regularly can be strange or unsettling.
Obviously I have somewhat rose-tinted glasses on the subject.
Then Bellagio just responds "Uhhh... No... That didn't happen."
Before demanding that Bellagio compromise the privacy of their customers to explicitly dis-prove it, maybe, just maybe the original journalists should provide some actual evidence. Something besides "Nah-ah. They totally were all the same person. Don't ask me how I know it. I just do."
Why? Just find someone you respect to explain it to you. The CME Group doesn't have to do anything here.
If something illegal happened let one of the enforcement agencies subpoena them.
That's literally how bad that article was.
Well CME - if the allegations in Vanity Fair are indeed false, why not sue them for libel/publishing materially false information harmful to your company? Surely it would be a slam dunk case. Otherwise, I'm tempted to side with the investigative journalism that resulted in a dozen-paragraph article with facts and figures, over your "that's not true" one-liner.
What really happened is that people traded contracts like always, and then big events happened. And one party of the transaction won, the other lost (on this particular position; you don't know their full portfolios nor you know their reasons for getting into that trade).
Matt Levine (see Hanky-panky 2):
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-18/half-a...
I doubt the CME cares much about the "problem" to sue some low quality publisher. I'd say it warrants no more from them than this short paragraph written by their PR intern.