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What did Monica do to violate the CoC?

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Ok, I think I need an "out of the loop" explanation. I've spent the last 10-15min reading this page and linked pages and I'm still hopelessly confused.

All I know is it has something to do with Monica questioning some new CoC changes (pronoun-related) and then being fired for "violating" the CoC before it was even ratified.

It's very unclear to me what everyone's positions on this issue were as it seems that Monica was asking about using gender neutral pronouns instead of what people preferred to be called by and that was an issue for SE? Like I said, I'm very confused.

I look forward to someone explaining what is going on because I can't make heads or tails of it.

>All I know is it has something to do with Monica questioning some new CoC changes (pronoun-related) and then being fired for "violating" the CoC before it was even ratified.

Pretty close. Monica blogged a timeline if you want even more reading. https://cellio.dreamwidth.org/2019/10/05/stack-overflow-fias... And then these might be better entrypoints to what followed https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334248/an-update-to... https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/firing-mods-...

>It's very unclear to me what everyone's positions on this issue

Most people seem to care more about how StackExchange handled it and what it means for the future of contributing to SE sites. The way SE got rid of her, and the subsequent damage control has been a dumpster fire.

They're prepping to sell the company, and the shit communication skills are probably a deliberate not-so-subtle "fuck off" to any volunteers that have become more ingrained into the community than the free frontline staff SE wants.

Thank you, that timeline was VERY helpful and I think now have a better grasp. It makes sense why I was so confused as a number of the actors (SE-staff mainly) in this acted in a way that defies logic (for me).

That's frustrating to see how they treat their volunteers, which are IMO the lifeblood of SE. If they go away, SE is nothing else than an archive of Q&A, which will crumble away over time.

Go ahead and call me bigot, this is the most ludicrous conflict I've ever seen. The fact that someone can be fired for "misgendering" is just beyond belief. Look, people all over the world are living in poverty, starving, dying, there are wars, we're facing climate change and yet in the west we're wasting out time over imaginary issues rather than tackling the real problems.

Trans people are being murdered in the USA on a fairly regular basis. Emphatically confirming that they have human rights is unfortunately not a waste of time.

Today: https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1184892291040862210

living in poverty, starving, dying

Trans individuals are at high risk of severe poverty, including homelessness, plus early death due to suicide or murder.

Heinous crimes don't typically begin with violent assault. They begin eith treating people with disrespect on a routine basis and normalizing the idea that these people are not deserving of the same respect as people of privilege.

One of the most effective ways to combat a lot of that is to insist on normalizing the idea that they deserve equal respect in social interactions.

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