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Comment by goatinaboat | Hacker News Reader

Kind of similar to North America in a way.

Not really the same. Americans are taught to love an abstract, idealised version of America, an eagle perched atop a flag, and it doesn’t really work, half of Americans hate even that, and that’s fine, no one really cares. Whereas the Chinese are taught to love a specific leader of a specific party operating a specific system, etc. And the consequences for not complying are harsh.

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As shitty as America is, we are allowed to criticize our government.

And boy do we have a lot of harsh things to say about all of them.

Try criticising corporations, especially the one you work for or the one the company you work for works with.

I hate Amazon.com. And Facebook. And Google! (Disclaimer: I still use Google search.)

Oh nobody denies that you have more political freedoms, I'm talking about why for instance, would your society focus so much about China being bad, highlighting the differences, whereas countries like Vietnam, still a communist state, you get to see tourism articles and everything.

What Israel is doing to some Palestinians would also qualify as shady behavior, but what I'm saying is that I don't have a personal feud with any of those countries, and I would totally visit them. But I have friends and family that based on the amount of propaganda about China are refusing to buy certain products, use software like Wechat, etc. That is sophisticated propaganda in my opinion.

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