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You know, we always see the tank guy when it comes to the Tiananmen Square massacre. Almost makes the whole thing seem like it was a "peaceful" ordeal. But we never see the massacre images. Seeing these pictures, the massacre part really starts to have meaning.

The picture of what was left after a tank drove over someone is sickening.

Just look at the HongKong redit thread, the very same happening now, but labeled as suicides :

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/dgo0z1/full_page_...

These appear to be pictures from the violent suppression of the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests

Over the years, I have seen that there are a lot more images than this. I wish all of them could be gathered in one location

Very powerful images. Let’s hope Hong Kong doesn’t meet the same fate.

I bet they will.

We live in a different time. News travels faster than ever before. Everyone has a camera on them.

Surely that is a mitigating factor if a powerful government intends on committing a crime.... With more people watching live, than ever before.

...tell that to the yazidi. You think they didnt't all have smartphones while they were being massacred and enslaved a couple years ago?

Your point is starkly true and very sad. There is a big difference in both societies. HK is a wealthy area and fairly tech advanced, so many people have cellphones. I think the yazidis live in under served areas from a tech/internet perspective. Somehow I'm hoping that makes a difference.

my point was that the yazidis had smartphones, and there is plenty of footage. It has not become mainstream for some reason.

Heck, TODAY, the army of a nato member is slaughtering civilians in northern Syria in plain sight. There's ample footage of the killings and it is horrific (e.g. tanks marching over people, including women). It gets systematically banned from the main social sites.

> News travels faster than ever before. Everyone has a camera on them.

I too am watching the ever-loyal Kurds get slaughtered by a NATO member with the overt approval of the US military.

I wrote a comment on the internet in response.

Problem solved?

offtopic, but these graphic documents could be best preserved as png files instead of gif (or even jpeg).

Edit: also, given the low-resolution of these old images they could be displayed inline, all on a single page withe caption for each. There are some extremely powerful images here. But maybe seeing them all at once would be too much to bear.

I think the point of not having them displayed inline is so that someone who visits the site not knowing what it's about isn't forced to see the graphic stuff if they don't want too.

This style of image gallery was common for the era (1995) since each image could take a minute or more to download over dialup internet connection. At those speeds even a contact sheet of thumbnails was somewhat of a luxury. I don't think the images are behind text links out of consideration for the blood of it all, but more for bandwidth conservation.

https://archive.is/8SPxK

This is a historic item for those who didn't see it first time it came out.

The photos were interesting because they were to explicit for the normal media, so it was a kinda important step to uncensored reporting via the internet.

From it's source -

Breaking news?

What amount of government repression does it take for the citizens to revolt?

Eyeball all the red in the Result column on this page. It's an unscientific method for sure but it would give me pause as a potential revolutionary. Of course the ccp arguably arose as a peasant revolt so there's that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts

Generally, it takes falling state and power vacuum. If you are solidly in control, you can repress people as much as you like.

When your bureaucracy does not work anymore and you cant pay the army is when it gets bad.

It probably depends roughly on the ruthlessness of the oppressor, the terms of surrender, and whether the populace is armed.

The Chinese have rebelled against their government waaaaay more times than Americans over basically any timeframe.

Mao managed to do it twice, including launching a revolution while actually in the government but sidelined.

Another fun fact, the US army has more recent experience helping put down a Chinese rebellion (boxer rebellion, 1900) than an American one.

While keeping the population well-fed, secure and with wages growing at 5% a year? Not possible.

The masses will beg for more oppression if you can keep that up.

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