Last week Rogan had Capt Fravor who was one of the alleged witnesses to the "tictac" video that the pentagon confirmed the legitimacy of 2 years ago. Worth watching if you're into this kind of thing.
- The object had been tracked for 2 weeks by radars: SPY-1 (ship) and E-2 (AWACS aircraft)
- Pilot made naked-eye visual contact with the tic tac from above, watching it move over the water
- There was a cross-shaped wake under it
- It jammed their radar when they attempted a lock, which is why they switched to passive tracking (IR)
- Visual estimate of the speed puts it at faster than mach 3 (SR-71), with instantaneous acceleration
On the show, the pilot pointed out the white "aura" around object in the IR video feed. Since it was set to black-hot, this would mean the nearby air was for some reason colder than the ambient air. He said this was also visible to naked eye as a "bubble." Anyone know of any propulsion that would be associated with a temperature drop to the vehicle surface, along with optical distortion?
Edit: There's a good chance the "aura" is an image processing artifact: https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-en...
Also since it was black, its surface was hot, not cold.
Check out my Reddit post, I go into greater detail on how these work.
In layman's terms, a vaccuum has been created around the skin of the craft. That vaccuum allows the craft to travel at speeds far beyond an SR-71. And, interestingly, allows them to travel underwater!
The US Navy patent doesn't describe a temperature differential, but it's possible that the absence of air (or water) around the skin of the craft is causing a temperature differential and the 'halo' that you see in the videos that were confirmed "authentic" by the Pentagon.
Check out the Navy's patent here : https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/
a quote from it:
"An artificially generated high energy/high frequency electromagnetic field (such as the fields an HEEMFG can produce) can fulfill all three conditions simultaneously (especially in an accelerated vibration/rotation mode), when strongly interacting with the local vacuum energy state. These interactions are induced by the coupling of hyper-frequency axial rotation (spin) and hyper-frequency vibration (harmonic oscillations/abrupt pulsations) of electrically charged systems (high energy electromagnetic field generators), placed on the outside of the craft in strategic locations. [0024]
In this manner, local vacuum polarization, namely the coherence of vacuum fluctuations within the immediate proximity of the craft's surface (outside vacuum boundary) is achieved, allowing for ‘smooth sailing’ through the negative pressure (repulsive gravity) of the ‘void’ (the void within the vacuum). It may be stated that the void ‘sucks in’ the craft."
But I must admit I know very little about these things.
On Rogan's forum, I posted an explanation of how these Navy "UFOs" work. I've included a history of their progress and citations:
https://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...
But, I will mention that flying a Navy aircraft dangerously close to other military aircraft -- especially between aircraft in formation is aside from being highly-dangerous, is highly-frowned upon, and highly unprofessional.
I don't see US military flight crews taking this risk, even if they are piloting "black" aircraft. I don't see this scenario happening (without an accompanying court martial).
Citation: Served in military in this area. FWIW, I have no better idea of what's going on than the rest of you, other than:
1. The possibility it's a government-manufactured hoax in order to misinform somebody for some reason, or...
2. A multi-spectral (visual/IR/radar) spoofing of some sort, which would mean the US could test things on live crews without actual danger to the crews.
But then I would have expected the crews who saw it to be quickly hushed - not publicly talking about it.
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...
"The way it works is like this. When directed toward the sky, a properly tuned proton beam, focused by magnetic lenses, would pass through the first few thousand meters of air with no apparent effect. If the energy levels are adjusted right, the beam itself wouldn’t be visible. Then, when the energy of the beam dropped to a critical value, it would dump its remaining energy in a very short distance, ionizing the oxygen and nitrogen atoms of the atmosphere, causing one damn fine glowing ball of plasma."
"Assuming a circular beam aperture, the plasma would also take on a circular shape. Viewed from the side, the plasma would have a lenticular cross-section, and possibly even a different color from the bottom to the top due to the energy gradient of the dying beam. Very much like a spectral distribution). In short, it would look just like a glowing saucer. The beam could quickly be moved laterally, giving the plasma the appearance of instantly moving across the sky, much as a searchlight can jump 'instantly' across the bottom of a cloud."
> The US Navy has made it abundantly clear that they have this technology .. When motionless, the craft point their gravitational waveguides DOWN, which causes them to hover.
OK then, tell us why they allowed two shuttles to explode rather than use this gravitational waveguide technology?
In 2008, a CIA analyst named "Ron Pandolfi" signed off on the declassification of the technology in a documented that he signed, here : https://fas.org/irp/agency/dod/jason/gravwaves.pdf
Pandolfi testified before the senate in 1998 in regards to the Chinese stealing U.S. technology:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campf...
The US patent office rejected the Navy's patents initially, then signed off on them after the Navy protested that China was working on something similar. Details here : https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-g...
That document says very clearly the technology is not feasible.
Yes, that's true. In the declassified document from 2008, they explicitly said it was unfeasible.
In the patent from ten years later, they explain how they did it.
Here is a cut and paste from the Navy's patent (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10322827B2/):
"The JASON report considers relatively low EM energy fluxes, when compared with those generated by the physical mechanisms described in the inventor's aforementioned published paper (on the order of 1033 W/m2, and beyond). This exceptionally high EM power intensity induces spontaneous particle pair production (avalanche) out of the vacuum of free space, thereby, ensuring complete polarization of the local Vacuum energy state, thus resulting in modification of the local spacetime energy density. It is because of this fact, that the JASON report's conclusions must be revisited, are incorrect, and are directly in conflict with the current invention."
In my Reddit post, I get into more detail, in regards to the relationship between JASON and the US Navy. (JASON was a program started by DARPA, who created the Internet.)
https://removeddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/dfehjt/an_explana...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_RQ-3_DarkStar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Polecat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_RQ-170_Sentine...