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Turkey starts attacking syrian kurds SDF after US forces left

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Its funny how some political non-tech news are getting removed extremely fast without staying flagged and some political non-tech news are staying unflagged for 5 hours (like this one) despite being a clone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21202946.

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So rather screw the kurds and loose them to the russians and Assad, than loosing turkey to the russians?

I bet(and hope), that does not pay off in the longterm.

And turkey btw. will always be on turkeys side first.

I think that's on the part of the submitter to HN, rather than the publisher.

The article itself carries headline: Turkey-Syria border: All the latest updates

And contains text: The move came after the United States announced it was withdrawing its troops from the region

Is it really related though? It's hard to imagine the US get into a conflict with Turkey, a member of NATO, to protect the Kurds, whose PKK is recognized as a terrorist organization by the US state department.

The whole thing makes no sense anyway. The west really need to leave the region and let them sort it out. The League of Nations has been disbanded for 7 decades now...

Yep, we don't have to worry about our allies, who we have encouraged to be where they are in Syria, who helped us in iraq and syria, are going to be decimated, causing untold amounts of new refugee crises. Nothing for us to be involved with. We have no part in this happening.

But in reality we did. We invaded Iraq. We let chaos reign there, in major part because we disbanded the Iraqi army and did nothing to replace it, remember there were no real plans for the post iraq world. We caused this.

Yes, before us there were endless warms between confusing groups. But we made it worse.

So the solution is to persist while making a mistake?

  >We invaded Iraq.
  >We let chaos reign there
  >we made it worse

... so "we must stay"? Pardon me but this makes absolutely no sense.

We can't just abandon people that we screwed over. We are better than that.

so what? we should "repent" by having to station troops there eternally?

the sunk cost fallacy shows us it's not rational to double down on mistakes. so what is your proposed plan forward?

Perhaps have a plan to deal with the repercussions of our decisions. Plus, it is not uncommon for the US to station military all over the world. Here's a list of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military...

So you think turkey bombards areas where they still suspect US troops to be around?

I understood the news so, that the US forces left. And if there are some remaining, than at know headquarters. But before they were patrolling the area together with SDF. They definitely withdraw from that.

CNN source, telling similar, but yes, aparrently also do not say anything about whether all US troops left the area.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-mi...

Listen to about 2 minutes of this podcast, starting about 55 seconds in: U.S. forces have begun withdrawing.

https://overcast.fm/+LHycEbYIU/00:55

If the karma system doesn't punish users that upvote submissions that eventually get flagged, it really should. Stuff like this is making the front page every few minutes. There's no way this belongs here.

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