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Social mores are part of being human. We're full of all sorts of contradictory beliefs and principles. Trying to reconcile all of them will quickly make you a crazy hermit.

On the topics of pigs, dogs, and pets; most people don't realize how intelligent and affectionate cows are. Dairy farmers often love their cows more than their dogs. And the farmers that have dairy cows and other cows have this mental barrier where one group is food and the other is family. I bet most people that have eaten a hamburger have never pet a cow.

This is not some meat-is-murder tirade - I'm not even vegetarian. It's just neat to think about the assumptions that construct our worldview.

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> I bet most people that have eaten a hamburger have never pet a cow.

Given that most Americans have definitely never pet a cow, and I'd go as far as to propose most have probably never even seen a cow in person, that's probably a very safe wager. But what percent of people that have pet a cow, would you wager also do eat beef?

Per your last sentence, I'd have thought vegetarianism would be much higher amongst city dwellers.

I’ve read that vegetarianism is far less common among people who grew up on/around farms. The claimed reason was that people who grew up away from farms are heavily influenced by movies and television that anthropomorphize animals. People who grew up near farms don’t equate animals with humans so much.

The animal barn is a pretty popular feature at state and county fairs.

I suspect a decent number of those who have pet a cow are cattle farmers, so probably most?

I might be ousting myself as a hick but surely 80%+ of people have seen a cow before, r-right...?

I grew up in rural Bavaria. I have vivid memories of the view from my rooms window to the dozens of farms and hundreds of cows directly outside. And of one cow getting loose in the middle of the night, chasing down my mother in our garden and ramming through the terrace door.

I've never considered the possibility of someone never ever having seen a damn cow.

I have many head but "Brisket & Ribeye" go to slaughter in November. I was just outside petting them and making sure they have great quality grass to eat.

>Social mores are part of being human. We're full of all sorts of contradictory beliefs and principles. Trying to reconcile all of them will quickly make you a crazy hermit.

I don't know if people are more crazy or more horrible. But whenever I see moral grandstanding on HN it always reminds me of experiences in SV and Seattle watching peers step over or ignore homeless, distressed human beings by day and do the same kind of moral grandstanding over drinks at night.

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