The conventional one always seemed absurd to me: I have to go to school and then continue being in school, mentally, AFTER school? Disassociation aside, it seems like that's training you for a 16-hour workday. How oppressive.
Maybe the flipped model can only support a lower cognitive ceiling though; I've never seen it applied to, say, calculus courses. Maybe hard enough material does require constant, oppressive grinding. D: (Not that young kids should be doing that though.)
Lectures were almost Socratic. We were only graded based on exams and participation, which I think he kind of arbitrarily awarded based on how engaged he thought you were.
Brilliant guy, loved his classes. He'd studied under a couple members of the Bourbaki group and headed the math department at one of the top math schools in Latin America.
Anyway, I had a great experience with this approach and I really think it's the best way to teach math.
That class was really the first time a lot of concepts actually started to make sense for me and I went from being a pretty below average math student to having some of the highest marks in the class.
The shtick about being bad at calculus, whether true or not, translated into a highly Socratic and collaborative learning environment, where all the students were legitimately teaching each other. This was modeled by us “teaching” our teacher.
Thinking back, it really is incredibly remarkable what she accomplished. Not that standardized tests are the greatest measure, but in less than a year of calc instruction, a full classroom of smart but fairly unremarkable students all scored top scored on the AP Calc BC test (in other words, every single one of us tested out of 100-level college calculus).
This was a scenario where having a “large” (ie more than 1-5 students) class (I think there may have been about 20 of us) with a gifted teacher brought out a positive side to non-small classes that you don’t usually see. We all learned the material well enough to teach it, and we all had many teachers we could go to for help understanding a concept.
The jobs I've been most engaged at, I would usually attentively listen in meetings while others present would spin their wheels discussing technical stuff in the weeds until I'd see a clearly superior alternate solution and put that forward.
It would appear as if I were zoning out in meetings, but I was actually just listening and thinking about the problem. I don't think people are particularly good at thinking while also discussing/debating, but I also don't think I would have as quickly arrived at the better solutions without the ability to attentively observe the relevant discussions.
If you're not even paying attention / thinking about anything relevant while in a meeting, your presence is a pointless waste of time and space and you should be doing something else.
Though in meetings I always pay attention, this may sound weird, but I like the social aspect of meetings.
1) College is very different from high school
2) If you don't need the lecturer, then the lecturer sucks.
3) If you really understand that well, why come (I can only assume they took attendance)? I had a digital logical class that was required, but I didn't bother showing up and scored 150%. When I lecture, if you don't need to be there, don't show up. That's perfectly fine by me. However, don't expect me to have a lot of sympathy if you suddenly find that you don't really understand what I lectured on that you skipped.
Meh. Some topics for some people are simply better served by a textbook.
> I can only assume they took attendance
Not the parent poster, but yes, some professors required us to attend. You don't - great for you and your students.
Well, when I teach, my classes are technical material. One student knowing (or not) the subject has no material impact on any other student. I also have a fixed amount of topics that I need to get across--your grade in my class should reflect your mastery of the material. If you understand the topics properly, I should give you the appropriate grade regardless of how you came about that knowledge.
If I taught a class dependent upon discussion (Philosophy or Political Science for example), I might have a different opinion.