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When Mac stopped supporting NVIDIA the Mac users became losers. They missed out on all the AI and other GPGPU work.

Remember Bumpgate? Nvidia shipped faulty GPUs to Apple (among others including Dell and HP) which caused hardware failures in around 40% of devices, which Apple had to replace. NVidia refused to acknowledge it was their problem/fault, and even went as far as trying to sue Apple, Dell et al. As a result, no more Nvidia on Apple platforms. I can't say I blame them to be fair...

There’s more than meets the eyes when it comes to the Nvidia/Apple situation. From what I’ve heard a big part of Apple’s problem has to do with the quality of Nvidia’s drivers — Apple is requiring that a bar be met, and Nvidia isn’t meeting it.

I can’t verify this claim, but given my personal experience it makes perfect sense. I run a 980 Ti alongside a 950 in my hackintosh tower and graphical glitches on the desktop happen pretty regularly despite both cards being perfectly healthy.

The other thing is that historically, Apple has been unwilling to differentiate the drivers between consumer and workstation cards because generally speaking that concept is kind of silly. Everybody should have workstation-class stability, not just those who shell out 3-5x more cash for a workstation card. It’s obvious why Nvidia would take issue with this,

> There’s more than meets the eyes when it comes to the Nvidia/Apple situation. From what I’ve heard a big part of Apple’s problem has to do with the quality of Nvidia’s drivers — Apple is requiring that a bet be met, and Nvidia isn’t meeting it.

Then Apple needs to dig down into their pocket, maybe they’ve got some extra money there, and solve this problem.

> I run a 980 Ti alongside a 950 in my hackintosh tower and graphical glitches on the desktop happen pretty regularly despite both cards being perfectly healthy.

The Nvidia web drivers are not great but there are so many factors that could be producing those glitches.

I've built about a dozen hackintoshes since 2010 and while I've experienced many problems I personally haver never seen graphical glitches.

I don't think it's fair to expect the same level of reliability from a frankenstein you've built yourself than a commercial product.

I would normally agree but at this point, hackintosh users are probably one of the largest groups of people making use of the Nvidia web drivers… the only others are going to be old Mac Pro holdouts and the tiny number of Mac users using Nvidia cards as eGPUs.

I think in my case specifically the graphical glitches are caused by having dual GPUs. That’s a somewhat uncommon configuration, but not so strange as to not test for.

Yes but the web drivers users are probably less than 1% of all Nvidia users.

I don't have any graphical glitches with the nVidia Web Drivers. I've used them with a GTX 970, and GTX 980 Ti, and GTX 1070, and a GTX 1080 Ti over the years. They have consistently worked fine.

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