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> I think a huge part of the problem is that...

... people just don't give a shit. They are so self absorbed that they only care about getting where they need to go and everyone and everything else can piss off.

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Including the pedestrians in my college town that walk out in the middle of the road nowhere near a crosswalk without looking at anything but their phone while I was doing 5 under. This is in no way unique to drivers or car companies or road designers or Waze or anything else.

None of those other people are operating a machine capable of killing someone.

It... kinda doesn't matter? If you're stepping out into a street, not at a crosswalk, not looking where you're going, with your face buried in your phone, you're not only an idiot, you're being incredibly self-centered.

Obviously a driver should be paying attention in that situation, and if they still hit the person, unless it was impossible to stop in time, they should be held responsible. But that's not really the point. Someone just got hurt or died, and it was completely avoidable if the pedestrian had taken some very basic steps to be aware of their surroundings.

Kind of does. Person who isn't paying attention and walks in the road only has themselves to blame if they get killed. People who get killed because some jackass has decided that they want to answer text messages while they drive is completely different.

Please don't set up a strawman to attack; I'm not claiming what you are suggesting. My response was directly to [0] which was specifically about people walking into a road randomly without paying attention to their surroundings.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21151908

I wasn't. You responded to me specifically saying that "It... kinda doesn't matter? "

How am setting up any kind of strawman in this instance?

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