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Comment by ezoe | Hacker News Reader

Keep in mind that Cloudflare is US company. US government is infamous for secret subpoena and gag orders toward the US companies. Also US government is infamous for serious and illegal spying. They also holding known vulnerabilities information from public for greater good(for them).

Practically, no trust.

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DoH to Cloudflare by default is only happening to US users. Their current DNS options via their ISP are also subject to the US government.

> DoH to Cloudflare by default is only happening to US users.

Not quite (as I understand things): it is for people with an "en_US" local.

If someone in the UK (or NZ, AU, CA) downloaded that particular language installer, then non-US residences can be hit by this.

There's also no trust with ISPs. They've already all lobbied at the Congressional level to legally sell our data. The NSA already captures/stores everything that comes out of any of their datacenters. So whose DNS do we use? A shitty company's, or another shitty company's?

>They've already all lobbied at the Congressional level to legally sell our data.

And succeeded! And even as they did it and succeeded, claimed that they didn't want or need that ability and /totally/ wouldn't take advantage of it if/when it did pass.

> There's also no trust with ISPs. They've already all lobbied at the Congressional level to legally sell our data.

Yes, for you Americans.

Please, go fix your politicians, rather than inflicting technical "solutions" to political problems on the rest of the world.

it's also a business. As soon as they find it advantageous to start selling that information, they will, and will ride on their reputation for privacy to make as much as possible from that information

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