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How can you be sure it's offline? Possibly it has wireless capabilities that work without your consent..

How? By putting in cellular or sat connections in secret? Because the FCC would be very interested in someone selling unlabeled and unlicensed radio containing equipment.

By connecting to open wi-fi, supposedly, maybe with the help of some kind of dark pattern: https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_ab...

Would it need to be labeled if they were plugging in a 5G pci-e/USB WAN module?

Yes

You wrap it in tin foil

It's a TV, wrapped in tinfoil you won't be able to see anything anymore.

You could, but you need Star Trek materials:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials#Tr...

We have a house without any Internet connection - that would require at least a mobile link.

Don't worry, in a few years they will have their own sim card and network.

This behavior is despicable and we must not accept it just because "I wouldn't connect the network cable/wifi anyway". Because one day that isn't an option and by then it is already too late.

They are missing a trick with peer to peer piggy backs.

You can see what devices are connected to your router for one. Also not if you: factory reset or change the password.

No open wifi networks nearby.

Which could be impossible in a dense city with Xfinity access points.

Aren’t Xfinity APs only for Xfinity subscribers? I doubt they’re just wide open. Now if a TV manufacturer struck a deal with an ISP and gave it its own access point to join...

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