Socialist Rifle Association
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2) Each weapon purchased must include a certificate of insurance that will reimburse $10,000,000 to any innocent individual harmed by that weapon.
3) No restrictions on cosmetic appearance of weapons, as long as personal firearms are incapable of firing more than 10 rounds in 20 seconds.
40 hours is pretty fucking lot. Are you sure you'd not be okay with like 4 hours lecture and exam based on the lecture and then like 5 two hour training sessions?
>2) Each weapon purchased must include a certificate of insurance that will reimburse $10,000,000 to any innocent individual harmed by that weapon.
Ah, you are not actually honestly in this, you are just trolling.
>3) No restrictions on cosmetic appearance of weapons, as long as personal firearms are incapable of firing more than 10 rounds in 20 seconds.
Sigh.
2) Any bolt-action rifle is capable of firing 10 rounds in 20 seconds. Any revolver is capable of firing 10 rounds in 20 seconds. A single-shot long gun is capable of firing 10 rounds in 20 seconds.
Only under an unrestricted interpretation of the Second Amendment. We already have a large number of restrictions on gun ownership [0] (see question 11 for a convenient list) in addition there are whole classes of 'arms' that private citizens can't own, it's impossible to own a modern automatic weapon (built in the last 20 years).
All of those are largely accepted exemptions to a literal reading of 'shall not be infringed' in the Second Amendment and have also survived direct Second Amendment challenges.
[0] https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-trans...
Regardless, it's not clear to me that this 40 hour class would be the best way to save lives. Accidental gun deaths have already been rapidly decreasing for decades. Assuming the classes were equally effective, you'd save an order of magnitude more people by requiring someone to take a 40 hour swimming class before setting foot in a pool.
We did ban most of those weapons (a 2nd Amendment violation according to the unrestricted interpretation), but we didn't quite get the regulation for the remain for guns and magazine sizes.
Ironically enough, gun culture fetishes that lead people to think weapons are solutions to their problems are being defeated by those of us utilizing our 1st Amendment rights. The weapons you hold so dear to your heart can no longer be used as a tool of the 2nd Amendment to prevent the rest of us from utilizing our 1st Amendment right any longer, outside of a mass shooting. No matter how much that pains you.
> [NRA President David] Keene points to an ugly truth about American history: Gun control has historically been used for racist purposes.
> And the NRA’s president should know: His organization was intimately involved in this history, promoting gun control laws that were tainted with racism.
See how fast law enforcement starts worrying about armed militia groups again if they start including left-wing ideology not just white supremacist/separatist credos.
[0] https://newrepublic.com/article/112322/gun-control-racist
There are some though who are devout marxists, which has never actually been put 100% into action. Most socialistic attempts have turned into dictator rule.
I'm not an expert on the subject, I just know every argument about socialism spends half the time trying to nail down what socialism is, and then the other half is back and forth about how many people have died under one or the other when there's really no way to quantify it because fuck tons of people have died under socialistic and capitalistic regimes (including the U.S.A -- victims of globalization and war profiteering, poverty, even school shootings because of a lack of medical and mental health accessibility).
But my main point was that word no-longer elicits fear, and contempt like it once did, and for many in America it elicits hope - because capitalism has failed them, so socialism couldn't be worse. So, for some they won't join because of it - for others they will join just because it's a socialist promoting org.
After all Bernie Sanders is one of the most popular politicians, definitely the most successful progressive/left-leaning politician we've ever seen (since FDR), and he gladly wears the title socialist, though I'm pretty sure he means democratic socialist not full socialism as well. <end rant>
Even the ones that want Marxist socialism don't want Cold War USSR-like government, which is Leninist, an authoritarian adaptation of Marxism to bypass the prerequisite in Marx’s theory of developed capitalism and broad working-class class consciousness.
> democratic socialist not full socialism
“Democratic socialism” is not “like socialism, but reduced strength”.
Is it? I have never once met anyone involved in it.
> The NRA is powerful not because of its donations, it rarely ever does that...it's because a lot of people own and like guns.
I think it's fair to say that a lot of gun-owners despise the NRA. Selecting Olly North as a figurehead is not a way to please a libertarian-leaning constituency.
Their website claims they have more than 6 million supporters, although I suppose that could include things like Facebook likes and change.org petition signers. I'd suspect that their funding is a bit less grassroots than the NRA's (since so much comes from Bloomberg) but I haven't really looked into it.
However Everytown is drastically outspending the NRA in terms of campaign contributions, and looks on track to outspend them overall in the next year or two.
But of the two people I have seen wearing Everytown apparel, neither were involved in any material way.
I suspect that it is a tiny organization with a large budget.
"Large" in terms of astroturf funding, they mean.
Their first point of unity.
We are working class and poor people dedicated to educating our class in the safe use of firearms for personal and community self-defense as well as recreation and subsistence hunting.
Quote from article on their site:
Gun Myths: Australia
School shooters are particularly interesting. Wealthy suburbanites living in gated communities are alienated from the struggle of the working-class and inevitably raise children who lack empathy for poor people.
It is easy to gun down other people if their humanity has been reduced to labor value.
Absent class consciousness, the working class are dehumanized and transformed into commodities valued only by their production.
So the ludicrous idea that school mass shooters are mostly rich kids with no empathy.
Jesus Christmas, even the N-R-"it's the video games!"-A wouldn't float something that stupid.