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Just to add a data point, I joined a FAANG company at one of their east coast offices and didn't get a signing bonus.

Just from my experience, Amazon almost universally offers signing bonuses to new hires in order to make up for backloaded vesting.

I am kind of shocked at how poorly Amazon pays new grads on top of unfavorable vesting schedules. There is a reason most of my friends left it in < 2 years for better work and pay.

I joined as a new grad at Amazon. What do you think I'm paid, and what do you expect me to make?

I hope you are paid what you wanted to be paid. On average my experience has been that Amazon's offers are lesser than Google and Facebook's. Not to mention no free food which would be okay if Amazon paid more but that is not the case.

> On average my experience has been that Amazon's offers are lesser than Google and Facebook's.

I'm sorry, are you saying I'm lesser? I don't understand what you mean by this.

I don't think this innuendo helps anyone considering offers at multiple places.

There is no innuendo ? I clearly stated Amazon's average offer is less than G and F. No one said "you are lesser". Whatever that means.

That's the direct implication, however. Unless you claim offers are decoupled from the labor market's value of an individual, which is certainly a novel idea I'd be interested in hearing about.

In that case most tech people are "lesser" than investment bankers. I didn't say anything about an individual's worth being tied to their offer. That is asinine in my opinion. You are projecting that by yourself. If you want to stick to numbers ask your peers who got offers from all 3 how they stack up. I also know the perks at Amazon suck. Food is a big perk for me and not having that is a straight 4k+ hit to your comp. 401k matching plus mega backdoor 401k , better health insurance. Even keeping absolute numbers aside Amazon is a penny pincher when it comes to its employees.

You can be the smartest engineer and have a bad interview day. Your offers then won't reflect your true "labor market worth". In the absence of a solid evaluative metric to judge a person, tying what an employer pays them to their worth is stupid. If you work for Amazon my unsolicited advice would be to get out if you want to be paid more.

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