Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar, even if others have made unfair accusations. Such discussions are equal parts predictable and nasty, we've had them many times before, and we don't need to have them again.
I understand the need to avoid flamewars, but I also believe that there is still a very strong contingent of people on HN that use it as a place to discuss things like this in a mature and appropriate way. Speaking only for myself, this is one of the reasons I like HN so much. It’s become more difficult as we’ve grown, but that’s to be expected. I hope we don’t lose the ability to have reasonable discussions of otherwise controversial topics :(