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I'm not really sure whether to agree or disagree. I have asian parents and went through the whole ordeal.

I can honestly say that, as a kid, I didn't enjoy it, but then again, I can't imagine anyone would.

However, I definitely would not be as knowledgeable, intelligent, or well brought up without the asian schooling.

This article and most people against asian parenting's viewpoint is from the outsiders viewpoint. They all see the brutality of it and think "how could you treat your child like that." On the flipside however, it is undeniable that asians outperform westerners. Parenting likely has something to do with it.

I'm not saying one side is right or the other. I'm just noting that there's a statistical imbalance and unless we're all willing to admit asian genes are superior to all others, outside influence must be responsible and parenting/culture is the most likely culprit.

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> it is undeniable that asians outperform westerners

[Citation needed]

Seriously, right?!

At least in the context of the US (which was the topic of the article):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American#Education http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Race_6_figure_household_an...

Looking at the breakdown, then perhaps Indian mothers are the superior ones? :-)

The point is that optimizing along one or two metrics such as income or education is myopic (which was the actual topic of the article), especially when you don't take into consideration the associated costs (opportunity and otherwise).

Look, you asked for a citation and I spent, apparently wasted, my time getting you two. Looking at income, education, percentage of children born out of wedlock, incarceration rates, and a number of other metrics, those of asian are doing very well compared to whites, blacks, and latinos.

If you want to pick your pet metric and explain why asians actually aren't doing so well, then you should provide citations and make your case.

> On the flipside however, it is undeniable that asians outperform westerners.

Look around your office and name 5 things invented in the Asia.

Paper, ink, the compass, most of the food you eat is from china,and clothes you wear.

The word paper is derived from "papyrus", Egyptian invention - along with ink. Chinese invented more practical process though, although modern way of manufacturing paper is different.

Compass, yes, although I don't keep one in my office (nor gunpowder for that matter).

None of the clothes I wear were invented in Asia.

It's possible to be strict and take some parts of Asian parenting without taking it to an extreme. I had math homework everyday during the summer, but I enjoyed it and my mom was smart enough to not force me to do it for hours a day. I also had a lot of free time to run around outside and play. With one or two exceptions, my parents rarely forced me to do schoolwork or practice piano. I think I turned out ok.

Im Chinese American, and although I'm no psychologist, it's quite clear to me you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

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