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It never feels like the contractor is an "expert" in a field, is any more efficient than another employee and is nothing more than another person that has been hired to do programming with less HR/employment overhead.

So not sure which audience this article is aimed at.

Maybe my experience in London doesn't reflect other places but as a contract and as someone who has looked for contractors it never felt like we got anyone special. They were another person and they took just as long to on board and become efficient.

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Your not paying for the best you are probably paying a similiar amount for your fulltime employees. What you get is all of the people who couldn't find a fulltime role who have to take this without any benefits so the quality is lower.

Now if you remote sourced the role gems will be found.

You have completely misunderstood the UK market - note that the OP talked about London. Perhaps as a way to get past the recruiting problem, UK corporates pay a premium for exerienced programmers on the basis that if they cannot do the job, they are let go immediately without severance. Most contractors are 30+, don't want to be 'in charge' (at meetings, giving interviews, being trained in the latest corporate 'values') and are happy to be given a product to build or maintain.

Every contractor I know resigned from a permanent position in their early thirties to go contracting and make 1.5x-2x as much money as a contractor. Businesses regularly offer contractors full-time positions and are regularly turned down.

Contractors may not be particularly special technically, but they will focus on doing what they're told in the team and not attending training, seminars, workshops or HR meetings. I'd much rather build a product with a team of suitably incentivised and managed contractors than a team of permies.

True, when I was contracting I did attend less meetings although it always felt like too many and the pay was good (not so much now).

But I always found it a little bit of a lie when the idea of a contractor coming in and working on a problem from day 2 or 3.

Granted this usually was because the problem was poorly defined and/or limited but even when I joined teams that had really good project managers it still was not as simple as "work on this in isolation".

I have since ditched contracting in UK, too much of a mess with the taxman.

Well, there are very few projects where someone can make a real difference from day 2 or 3. But given that there are numerous permie developers who want either to be a) Product Owners, b) Software Architects or c)professional Youtube viewers, getting a contractor in means you can cut your losses at the end of a 4 week period if you want to and firms do. While it's possible, I've never seen a permie cut during the probation period.

What did you do instead? There is a wave of people looking to get out of contracting in the UK right now exactly because of the messes HMRC keep making.

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