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So do Basic, Ada, Pascal, C and C++ as well, and yet they have richer standard libraries, with deployment profiles.

Since when does libc include "rich" things like regex, serialization and http?? Even C++ standard lib is mostly containers and algorithms.

libc is barely a standard library, it's almost nothing.

C might not include those specific examples, but POSIX + libc already include plenty of stuff.

C++ surely does include regex, with serialisation and http scheduled for C++23, or with luck with a TR as intermediate delivery.

Although serialisation depends on static reflection being finalized as well.

Still, it implies C fails, because you don't get POSIX on all available platforms.

I think the definition is meaningless. Rust spends huge amount of resources to test itself and its surrounding ecosystem on tier 1 platforms.

I'm fairly certain regex from c++ std will run like crap, if at all on something with 4MB of RAM.

Except the small detail that C's POSIX support is much wider than Rust's tier 1 platforms.

I am fairly certain that without profiling and defining a test configuration for a set of specific C++ compilers / standard C++ library I won't assert anything about std::regex performance with 4 MB of RAM.

Perhaps. But you're comparing a 26 year old standard for a 47 year old language, to a language that's been stable for 4 years.

>deployment profiles

In other words, not all functions in the stdlib of Ada, Pascal, C and C++ can be used in all possible target environments? Sounds like a failure to quality gate those standard libraries.

Nice jab try there, the suble point you are missing is that a deployment profile still is a guarantee of support.

There aren't an endless number of profiles.

I'm not sure if you're just being disingenuous here, but you're right that you're not going to be able to use all functionality from the stdlib of Ada ( and others ) on every possible target, but you were never, ever going to. And Rust certainly won't solve this problem for you. It's not a consequence of poor standard library design either. It might not be immediately obvious, but even C has a runtime library, which needs to be specific to the architecture and OS that you're targeting. Just for a quick example, `malloc` is going to need to function differently depending on what OS you're running, and if you're targeting a microcontroller with extremely limited RAM it might not even need to be implemented at all.

I don't think the parent was claiming the Rust was better in this regard, just that it was no worse. Other languages also restrict standard library features on some platforms.

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