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Agree, but: Most free VPNs are run by state-owned actors, may also in fact be honey-pots, which are now dripping with meta-data for literally everything you do on the Internet. Whilst that is not strictly worse than MiTMd HTTPS, it is still a step in the wrong direction.

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Not saying you are wrong, but I would love a source for this statement.

I guess you mean source for state-owned VPNs?

My other comment has this ref: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18525041

And Lantern, a P2P VPN popular with the Chinese is backed by CIA (so is Tor):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20373425

> Most free VPNs are run by state-owned actors

That's a dramatic statement however and you didn't support it at all with your links. Can you back up the claim that most free VPNs are state-owned? That is what the reply was likely asking for.

https://www.top10vpn.com/free-vpn-app-investigation/

I'm not quite sure what you're insinuating about Tor. Tor is an opensource project govern by a non-profit. If you're worried about things like backdoors, that's why it was opensourced in the first place.

I'm not sure how you're connecting the CIA with Tor. I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA uses Tor. I know the State Department does.

Tor is open source but nobody knows who runs the nodes

It's a distributed anonymous network. It wouldn't be very useful if we knew who was running the nodes.

Of course. I am saying mentioning its open source says nothing about whether some of the nodes are CIA operated, etc

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