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I can believe they’re overtaking slack because they make Teams an aggressive default install with the Office 365 client, and it’s replacing Skype for Business.

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That's correct. The company where I am currently working at was using Slack but recently decided to stop paying for Slack and instead use Teams since they were already paying for a subscription to Office 365 for each employee.

I hate it. My colleagues hate it. The UI is terrible. Most of the time navigating between the channels is a pain and the UI is just horrendous.

I think the funniest thing that was released lately was the 6 emojis that you can use on a message(thumbs up, love heart ...).

The emojis are of bad quality and look like crap.

Anyway, you can't pay me enough to use this stuff and as the author said in this article, if and when I change jobs I will be making sure that the team I start on will not use this sorry excuse of bloatware.

Please educate us on your compliance requirements that allows you to 'throw the baby out with the bath water'

>The emojis are of bad quality and look like crap.

Maybe an oversite on my part, but I didn't even consider this as I was evaluating an enterprise productivity app...

I think people underestimate the value in making intra office communication an enjoyable experience.

An ugly and unpleasant working environment can affect your productivity.

If “the emojis are of bad quality” is what constitutes an ugly and unpleasant working environment in 2019, I’d say the future is looking bright indeed.

The emojis look like they came straight out of the early 2000s. It's about as bad as if the had picked Comic Sans as being the default font.

It is not in fact installed with every Office 365 install. I just had Teams pushed with a separate group policy because of this.

They will overtake Slack easily since it is a free addition to most 365 plans

Newer Office 365 client builds are installing it by default. Worse, they didn't move away from the per-user installation. Instead they just took the brain-damaged route of force-installing it inside each user's profile when they logon. I think that's a real dick move, but, then again, I sometimes think I'm the last admin in the world who gives a damn about efficiency.

Again it depends. I downloaded an installer only yesterday that did not have it, even when it was part of the subscription. It is also not being pushed as an office update to my users yet. But then again I haven't checked if that is because WSUS is holding it back

If you take a blank W10 machine and do a 365 fat client install on it you get the ‘Teams machine wide installer’ installed on it, which then hooks the teams installer in on a per login basis. Your workplace must have endpoint management in place that somehow prevents this.

We use teams at work. Most people i know cant stand it. Its chatoix UI. 10 tabs on each «teams». Ive deleted the app. Whenever someone tags me i just open their browser app, reply and close. Even having the tab open sometimes causes cpu and memory spike and my laptop fans starts wirring. If they kill skype/lync for teams, MS is making a huge mistake. Lync and Outlook are the most distraction free softwares we use.

Skype for Business (Lync) was discontinued in July, and support will stop July 31, 2021.

Hold up, what? I was using it until last week (I'm no longer with that company), and it was the semi-de-facto IM solution, because the entire team isn't on Slack, and worked well enough to serve our needs- the person we want to talk to is at another location right then (we moved around a lot) and we needed to talk to them.

Discontinuation is news to me.

yeah thats not quite right: Microsoft announced that Skype for Business online will retire on July 31, 2021.

They still sell the product, and the hybrid/on premises solution is going to be around for a while. MS Teams will replace the "Online" only. There is no "on Premises" solution for Teams so S4B will be around a while I think.

Lync itself is decent from a UX standpoint. But holy fucking batman, the backend for Lync is an absolute nightmare to setup and maintain. I wouldn't blame Microsoft for wanting to get rid of Lync just to be rid of it.

what? are you serious?

Lync and Skype for Business UX is an abomination. I rage every day any time I have to use it, and I've been using it for about 10 years.

Its the worse UX in any app I've ever had, I find GIMP easier to navigate than S4B.

That is a bit odd I have never seen teams spike my laptop and I have outlook and excel and an ubuntu vm plus a load of other stuff running

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