I have lived in big cities, but currently reside in a rural area. I have never felt less socially isolated than I do now. They say it takes at least 40 hours of time spent together to make a friend. That makes school the ultimate place to make friends as you're pretty much forced to be around the same people for >40 hours. However, as an adult no longer in school, I have found that the smaller community increases the chances of seeing the same people each day, which prolongs the time spent together, and increases the chances of becoming friends.
In the big city, more often than not I'd meet people one day and then never see them again. That is isolating.
I have found that few in my broad age bracket(20-40) goes to many places regularly. Even the gym, which should be pretty regimented and consistent, is totally inconsistent in patronage. That's 3 years in the same gym and there is maybe 4 regulars. I have no trouble saying hello to people, but when I never see them again it's a moot point.
My best success so far is mountain biking, yet still. I am there the same time every day, three days a week, and rarely see the same person twice. When I do start to notice some regulars, I break something and then by the time I get back to riding the regulars are already back to irregular and I never see them again.
I used to think I need to be organizing stuff in order to make and keep friends, but I think we just need to make the concession to be somewhere regularly to give friendships the opportunity to happen. We seek novelty so much the idea of going to the same place twice in a fortnight keeps us all from bumping into eachother.
I would hope to take it the opposite end. Open to anyone in the community with monthly dues that regular people can afford. Just make it a nice place to socialize, play cards, listen to music, and meet new people.
I’m sure it would be an unmitigated disaster as I have no experience running something like this, but it’s a small dream.
there are plenty of regulars that go after work every day. and the atmosphere is substantially more social than a gym
School where I grew up wasn't much better than homeschooling sounds for the grandfather comment here: there just wasn't a culture of academic interest or many extracurriculars that interested me, beyond musicals and a school quiz team. Awkward high school me just didn't have much in common with the majority of kids where I grew up. A couple dozen classmates really isn't much to choose from. So I think you're overlooking the fact that you need a base of at least enough people that you can find some folks with similar interests, or at least people with compatible personalities.
Community college was a positive leap because I had a lot more diversity of classmates from all the different classes I took. That was the first time I was a member of a population large enough to actually find like minds and clubs/activities where I could build relationships.
Four year college was the best: I had friends in almost every class, most of the dorms, and had activities like TAing that actually interested me. Thousands of other similarly-smart kids with hundreds of clubs and activities to meet people? That's a perfect formula, and I wish I could replicate it in the post-graduate world.
Living in NYC since graduation has been a mixed bag. I feel like most people already have established friend networks so you need at least one decent connection to make it into one of those networks. One difficulty I found was that it takes a lot more active effort to maintain friendships. My college friends do not live nearby, so I have to organize travel to see any of them or at least try to call them up every week or two.
The other struggle is that most folks just don't have that much time outside of work. When I add up work (8-10 hours a day, including commute), sleep (6-8 hours a day), running (1 hour a day), cooking (1-3 hours a day)... there's only a couple of hours left to do anything. If you need to travel more than 30 minutes via subway to meet up with a friend, it's easy to start cutting into sleep time. God help you if you have a kid, or a dog, or a significant other who gobbles up more of that time.
Anyway, that basically means that most of my friend-making in NYC has boiled down to "people I work with" because that's the place where I see the most people other than my family/existing friends the most consistently. If you're not at a company with a culture perfectly aligned with your personality, it can be tough to make friends at work, and then you get isolated pretty easily.
I still haven't found quite the right formula for friends here: I've participated in running clubs, gyms, book clubs, and volunteer work, and none of them have hit the right balance for "regular group interaction" and "people I mesh with well." Hanging out at bars and coffee shops has its place too, but gets pricy and can be lonely to do alone at first.
All in all I think the big city just feels more isolating if you don't have friends because it seems like everyone else already has friends here. When I lived in rural America, it was depressing because I knew there was nobody I even wanted to hang out with. In the city I at least have hope that if I meet the right people -- who are definitely around here somewhere -- I could establish a great group of friends. The trouble, as it always is, is in meeting them.
What needs to happen is distribution of work. It's difficult, granted, but not impossible for companies to create smaller offices for specific products or subdivisions.
But it's a chicken / egg problem; people working in the city (at a tech company) don't want to move because they live there now, and companies don't want to move or create offices further out because there's no good developers there.
But at the same time, companies will gladly pay for relocating people from abroad. Why not do the same for moving into the countryside? This should be fine for expats as long as they're not too picky about where they end up living.
I am pretty sure that some developers prefer to live in a low cost area but companies often use that as leverage to lower down compensation.
It sure doesn't help that there's a bunch of articles about people who "found happiness" by moving to a rural area like a year ago. You may see some benefit in the short term (yes, one year is a short term), but on a long term it will fuck you up.
Can you explain on how being rural will fuck you up? Do I count as rural as described above?
I've seen plenty of comments from people in rural areas along the lines of "Why are all the young folks moving to the big cities instead of here?"