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I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s.

I'm also curious about the rapid charge, it was supposed to be 350 afaik but is launching with 150ish only (not 250 as in the web page) and will be increased with software updates in the next few years.

I think if they put a proper infotainment system with a big screen like tesla, give free map/system updates and it doesn't suck in efficiency it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace.

However looking at it... it reminds me of a frog, so maybe not..

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I know I’m the weirdo, but the big screen is something I dislike about the Model S. I’m glad to be getting options that don’t have it.

Not sure about the S, but the 3’d big screen looks really goofy to me and was a definite factor in my decision to wait for more electric car competition.

The big screen on the S and X gets rid of all the clutter in the centre console. Just look at the centre console on the I-Pace, e-Tron, and EQC 400, just a mess of screens and buttons making the interior look and actually be more cramped.

I like the assembly quality on the Magna Steyr built Jaguar but the design is too fussy for me. I prefer my S.

Let's wait for the price, real world performances and see how the fit and finish is. As good as the 2013 model S was it was far from perfect and suffered from many issues.

Yeah there was enough issues with it for me to go for a toyota instead at the time, especially with rattling in the windows.

I'm also really curious as to it's consumption at 100-120 km/h (60-75 mph). That and the internal space was what struck down the etron and i-pace for me.

> I think this is the first car that is nearing the 2013 tesla model s.

They're aimed at different things. The Taycan is a performance car, the Model S isn't. The Model S is uncompetitive with the Taycan around a race track, for example.

Also why the big screen probably isn’t a priority while hooning around a track!

I never really understood this comparison. 99% of owners will never see the track. So why do we care so much about track performance?

Not in Germany, which is most valuable market for Porsche.

> it might actually sell a bit more than etron and i-pace.

That's not really hard... Both these models aren't really selling well.

They're selling better than the model x in Norway so far in 2019. For me personally they have too short range and too little space but there is a certain segment that want a "real" electric car made by an encumbered manufacturer. I used to be one of them until I saw the specs of the i-pace and etron.

Can you show your data? I think both those models are out selling S/X.

The i-Pace sales are limited by the Austrian factory capacity to make them AFAIK

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