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Climate crisis, shown directly on power plant, in guerrilla projection

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Brilliant. I'm not a big art fan, but this really grabs me. I take my hat off to the people behind this.

Considering that organization behind this (Greenpeace) is also protesting against nuclear energy, the most realistic alternative to fossil energy, i will not take my hat off.

That’s not the most realistic alternative to fossil energy. The most realistic option would be the cheapest, renewables and storage.

Could we say both are realistic alternatives? We've ran out of time and really need to move away from coal, like yesterday, who cares which method we use, let's just stop burning fossil fuels.

I care. Safe nuclear power plants require high quality maintenance and stringent regulations. I'm not too optimistic about social stability (the part of climate change we won't be able to avoid will not help), so I don't want nuclear power plants all around.

Should a nonexistent energy storage mechanism be considered realistic?

Storage for renewables is realistic for hour-to-hour and max day-to-day fluctuations. But in central europe (like where the power plant from the article is located) solar power production during winter is about 15 % of summer values. You cannot reasonably store electricity for whole season.

Storage isn't yet realistic for whole-day fluctuations. Current capital costs are about $200/kWh. Daily global energy use is about 400 TWh. That would be an 80000 trillion dollar battery.

That number is so outrageous it's basically infinite. Even if the whole world focused on building a battery to supply a single country for a single day we'd run out of materials and land (batteries aren't small).

The only hope for energy storage is 100000x cost reductions.

I can appreciate the art by itself without having to agree with everything Greenpeace does (I don't much care for then for the record.) Don't politicize everything, people you don't agree with can accomplish great things too.

kinda pathetic the levels they will stoop to, to make the point.

Yes, projecting words on buildings, absolutely atrocious.

You're going to have to break down a bit what you think is pathetic about this, I think.

We’re heading straight over a cliff and instead of debating how to solve the problem we’re debating how to even talk about the problem. How is that productive?

Yeah, it's tragic. No damage to any property. Doesn't interfere with anyone going about their daily business.

Its a huge tax and central planning scam, with people like this as foot soldiers for the elite.

> foot soldiers for the elite.

Well, if this isn't the pot calling the kettle black...

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