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Comment by gtirloni | Hacker News Reader

Large doesn't mean ethical. There's that giant firewall, the backdoors, etc.

Huawei has been caught doing corporate espionage many times, and treating its employees poorly. It’s always such an uphill battle to get people to realize that competition with China is different from democratic countries. It’s easier to believe that it’s just racism and bigotry than it is to accept that Chinese companies compete on uneven footing.

>Huawei has been caught doing corporate espionage many times, and treating its employees poorly

Lets remove Huawei with Uber.

Uber accused of espionage, bribery and hacking by former employee:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/15/uber-accused-of-espionage-...

"I am an Uber employee and I support the drivers’ strikes.":

https://boingboing.net/2019/03/27/i-am-an-uber-employee-and-...

Have you seen Uber being cut any slack here in Hacker News? Or in the press at large for that matter.

I haven't.

I absolutely agree but if you think that the US companies are fighting fairly then you are sorely mistaken.

The US government and judicial system routinely interfere to give advantages and sometimes outright eliminate competitors to American companies.

A very good example is the way the acquisition of Alstom by GE was delivered.

Another example is how the US government and Microsoft effectively killed off japanese competition from their TRON operating system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_project).

Let's not play this particular blame-game. The ethics (or lack thereof) of the administration of China is not where this bias comes from.

> The ethics (or lack thereof) of the administration of China is not where this bias comes from.

How so?

Seriously?

https://mashable.com/2014/06/05/edward-snowden-revelations/

One doesn't justify the other. Otherwise we're lowering the bar instead raising it.

Yet, it's convenient to point it out every time a Chinese company is mentioned in any context. But not so much when a company from the US does it. Let me ask you a question, name me a company that is the in the top 100 largest company in the world - that you would consider ethical?

The United States doesn't harvest the organs of prisoners.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio...

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/torture/secret-c...

This is a waste of time. Both "sides" have done terrible things and, again, one doesn't justify the other. We shouldn't cut these companies any Slack... be it Huawei, Uber, whatever.

Just like the NSA and Cisco do...

Those aren't back doors. They're front doors for democracy and freedom. [/s]

We can't expect media to be entirely neutral. Both sides will tend to focus almost exclusively on their own achievements and the other's failures and mistakes in order to maintain the balance. It may be a good idea to read both sides and then "average out".

Cisco built the Great Firewall. Huawei just maintains it.

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