Seems like especially poor tone on an outage thread... “Don’t kick them while they’re down” or something?
Seems like especially poor tone on an outage thread... “Don’t kick them while they’re down” or something?
This abusive resource usage has created a dislike of Slack among a subset of its users.
I'm currently sitting at 400MB total usage (including helpers) for 4 workspaces.
Using the browser based version often is less resource intensive.
Fantastical, a calendaring app, is sitting at 333MB.
1Password is taking up 168MB in the background.
Finder, which I don't even have a window open for, is eating 127MB.
I'm not saying 400MB is amazing or anything, but it's a significant drop from the gigs of memory wasted by previous versions.
This is a pretty reasonable complaint when you're talking about a system with 2gb, and a chat application that uses 1.5gb of memory...or heck, a 16gb system when you have programs that legitimately need as much memory as you can give them and are being starved of it. Nobody would begrudge this usage if it was necessary for the task, but it isn't. Not even close.
Edit: Apparently this is better than it used to be, but there have been times when Slack also ate up CPU like crazy. Which, again, no biggie if you have plenty to spare, but when you don't...and even then, if you have plenty to spare, you're still going to be annoyed with Slack if it's eating all of your battery because the CPU is working really really really hard at...um...dunno? If it were mining bitcoin/monero without your knowledge or consent then at least it would be DOING something.
Ire, jealousy, hate... There are a lot of bad feelings towards Slack.
These are not necessarily my feelings, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't dislike them just a little.
Not sure why you think OP can’t say “Slack sucks”.
1. While today's incident was unfortunate, Slack has been historically reliable.
2. There's a team of real people that works very hard to keep it that way. Using dismissive language just dumps all over their hard work.
3. It's easy to be dismissive but once you move away from Slack you'll realize how much an app that size gives you. IN other words the "sucks less" statement has shades of ignorance, and of course subjectivity.
4. Why be rude at all? Even if you don't buy into any of the above, is it that hard to be nice in making a point?
> 1. While today's incident was unfortunate, Slack has been historically reliable.
Screen sharing and video have not been reliable in the past month. With several public incidents.
> 2. There's a team of real people that works very hard to keep it that way. Using dismissive language just dumps all over their hard work.
I feel very little sympathy for an engineer who make couple of hundred thousands per year. Not accounting stock options, vacation, and work environment. And Slack won't fire the culprit.
> 3. It's easy to be dismissive but once you move away from Slack you'll realize how much an app that size gives you. IN other words the "sucks less" statement has shades of ignorance, and of course subjectivity
We invest our own time building integrations. Why should be doing that for Slack and not for the competition?
> 4. Why be rude at all? Even if you don't buy into any of the above, is it that hard to be nice in making a point?
I don't think OP's "It sucks" is dismissive or rude. You can be nice and still thinking something sucks. It helps no one to lie by choosing less explicit words.
Similar peeve is when people say “don’t politicize this tragedy.” No, politics is how we decide to act, a tragedy is exactly when we should be the most political. The Boeing 737 crashes is when we should excoriate and eliminate the rot at Boeing and the FAA, not six years later after some respectful silence.
Borrowing from Lin Manuel-Miranda's Thomas Jefferson:
> These are wise words, enterprising men quote 'em > Don't act surprised, you guys, 'anaphor wrote 'em
It's a nicer way to convey the same idea, without triggering a combative emotional response in reaaders.