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OH Come on! Life is not meaningless and maybe those people will NOT die anyway. Maybe it's just because you didn't found out by now, what is important for you in live. One example what changes life for ever is having kids. Seeing them grow, laugh and learn things is just amazing.

I dunno if this is cry for help, if yes I would like to help.

Edit: Why study to become a paramedic? Cause you want to. Cause it is your dream. Cause you ever wanted to work as paramedic. Cause it makes you feel better when you help people. Cause it makes you happy helping people. Cause it makes you happy to work with people.

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Everyone will eventually die anyway.

And your reasons can just as easily be turned around.

Why work hard to win at WoW? Cause you want to. Cause it is your dream. Cause you ever [sic] wanted to be lvl 80. etc.

If your 'argument' applies equally well to any position it is completely meaningless.

> Everyone will eventually die anyway.

Oddly enough, not everyone agrees with that. Some of them are even working on that problem.

Not very successfully though

But what's the point of immortality anyway? Life is just a meaningless sequence of cause-effect relationships. Immortality would mean being trapped by life, eventually you'll explore everything there is to explore in life and be drawn to explore death. The experience of death is more meaningful than life - it is true adventure. Taking a peek for yourself, seeing what's more. Life is pain, so immortality is an infinity of pain.

I can make these arguments all day. Immortality is not inherently meaningful.

You believe we have souls. I we do, the death problem has already been solved by Mother Nature, God, or what have you.

However, current evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of the non existence of souls. therefore, death isn't the next adventure, it's nothing.

About the meaning of immortality, you may want to read the Fun Theory sequence at http://lesswrong.com

loup-vaillant said:

"You believe we have souls. In that case, the death problem has already been solved by Mother Nature, God, or what have you. Current evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of the non existence of souls. therefore, death isn't a possible adventure, it's nothing. About the meaning of immortality, I recommend the Fun Theory sequence at lesswrong.com"

No I don't believe in souls. You are assuming beliefs that I don't have.

Nihilism does not require a belief in anything supernatural. I do believe that death is real, and therefore I believe that dying is something that happens to people. The point is that you can't prove in any objective way that death is less meaningful than life.

This is not really due to the nature of life and death, it is due to the nature of meaning itself.

OK, I was confused by the word "adventure". I assumed that if you said this, then "death" must be… something. I thought we were disagreeing on facts. And of course I can't prove that death is less "meaningful" than life: that's a moral judgement, not a factual belief.

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