Comment by krapp | Hacker News Reader

Comment by krapp | Hacker News Reader

> - Challenge/wrestle the validity of post by staking some amount of token.

> - Whoever wins the argument takes the opponents token.

Hacker News isn't fight club, not all posts and comments are arguments seeking refutation, and there isn't a single objective "winner" or "loser" in every discussion, nor a means to judge which is which. The people who tend to see every comment as an opportunity to "score points" tend to be the worst sort for a community... attaching an economy and gamifying that would only incentivize point scoring, gambling and rules lawyering over healthy or insightful dialogue.

> - There can be a karma component as well, where in the bad actors need to pay 1.5x amount of token if they did a bad karma last time.

So I can get some bot accounts and just mass downvote or flag anyone I disagree with to make it all but impossible for them to participate in the future? Good to know, I guess.

1. So lets say even if an actor is trying to bring down a 'normal/good' post by staking token against it, it is eventually the one staking the token who will loose. The jury members will be there to ensure that.

2. Karma component will only kick in, once the user has been identified as a bad actor by a jury. So you will never be able to bring bot accounts and just mass downvote. Good to know, I guess :)

There's a "jury" too?

A decentralized system that depends on a central source of authority? Who are the jury members? How are they selected, and by whom? How are they held accountable for their actions? How are their biases accounted for? How do we know they're not in collusion with the mods or other users?

>Karma component will only kick in, once the user has been identified as a bad actor by a jury. So you will never be able to bring bot accounts and just mass downvote.

So my downvotes don't count when the jury likes the person I'm voting against?

Someone who disagrees with me, just downvoted one of my comments, decreased my karma without even giving a valid argument. I see more reason for a decentralized hacker news.

Why? You don't have to spend anything to continue to comment here, being voted down or up has no cost, karma is meaningless.

With the model you're describing, meanwhile, every downvote devalues your currency, and with it your ability to participate anywhere.

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