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What you want is a plain old music generator app. Search for "generative music". Drop the Ai, it's overkill. Also with the amazing tech these days anyone can be a musician. It's basically push-botton.

Bloom on the iOs app store. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bloom/id292792586

Someone's cloned Bloom: https://github.com/generative-music/blossom

Wotja too maybe. Here's their FAQ about rights: https://intermorphic.com/wotja/faq/#faq-recording-ownership

Wired can point you in more directions: https://www.wired.com/story/generative-music-apps/

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I just want to highlight that Bloom was specifically created by Eno, whom you mentioned. He considers the generation his art. But the github repo 'clone' is under MIT so just use that.

> Drop the Ai, it's overkill.

Well, if you do want to use AI, this project is totally open source, "real" AI and pretty damned easy to use,[0] and generates something that's pretty darn close to SOTA as far as actual "musical" interest goes! Unfortunately, it seems to need Python 2. It would be really nice if someone forked the project (it's pretty researchy/proof-of-concept right now!) and committed to maintaining it for the foreseeable future, to run on whatever supplants Python 2 as the "standard" platform for Theano, when that version of Python goes EOL.

[0] https://github.com/hexahedria/biaxial-rnn-music-composition

While really really cool I don't think this is polished and directable enough for OPs needs.

>Also with the amazing tech these days anyone can be a musician.

If they’re musicians, George Jetson ran a factory.

I understand your point. Yes, push button music is a scourge ;)

Though, let's draw a line between someone who can make music for unobtrusive background applications (like OP) and someone who can make music for entertaining lots of people, perform it in person, and do both for decades while keeping a high level of quality (like Bruce Springsteen or Björk).

Thank you for sending me down this rabbit hole.

Eno's Teropa site is amazing, and I've played with the generative drum machine for hours.

https://teropa.info/loop/#/stochasticdrummachine

I recommend people start at the beginning, you progress with space bar. https://teropa.info/loop/

> Also with the amazing tech these days anyone can be a musician. It's basically push-botton.

And this is why it's getting harder and harder to find decent electronic music that doesn't sound like a chimp threw its shit at a wall; because some wanna-be with no musical skill can download a few loops, layer them up in their cracked FL Studio (or whatever) and over-compress the shit out of it for their "mastering". imo electronic music was much better when there was a barrier to entry in so much as you needed about $5k worth of equipment before you could produce something semi-decent.

I fell ya, and used to think the same way too.

I've even spent that same $5K and got that equipment.

However, there's something missing from weekend bedroom producers, the hunger to be the best and dedication of their entirely life to it.

How? Open mic gigs, playing festivals, being friends with other producers, having lots of charisma, cranking out the tunes and adapting until one hits that sweet spot over and over again.

I think there's just more noise tbh. The overall output of good music is without a doubt much higher without the 5k barrier to entry - you just have to search harder to find it

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