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This bill does not add one single green card or H1B visa, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Giving green cards to people waiting in queue for a decade will actually make it more likely that they will switch jobs or demand better salaries, which will make it more likely for companies to hire others. Plus immigrants are more likely to start companies which increases jobs for everyone.

>My great-grandfather, grandfather, and father all fought wars...

So your forefathers did something great so you're entitled to untold riches? What if your forefathers were slave owners or serial killers? Should you be thrown into jail because of that? How about we judge individuals on their contributions versus their forefathers?

>Hey just wondering what Indians are giving to the US' native population that built the country giving them jobs?

Things like this: https://money.cnn.com/2018/06/08/news/economy/immigrant-doct...

Not to mention several inventions and contributions in the tech sector.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_Americans#Scien...

Plus, if work immigration is restricted, the jobs will be offshored. It's already happening in some form. There are some tech sectors with zero unemployment like security, and there are millions of job openings. There should be strict laws which are enforced against ageism which is a big problem.

I agree with most of your points, but:

> So your forefathers did something great so you're entitled to untold riches?

Yes, the poster is entitled to the benefits of living in the country they were born in. Infinitely more so than foreigners are entitled to access to his country. A country has an obligation to its citizens, arguably more so to those who have sacrificed to allow it to exist, and none to outsiders who wish to join. Those outsiders' desire to join should be considered only insofar as they benefits the citizens of the country, and I think you've fairly illustrated where that can be the case.

>This bill does not add one single green card

FALSE.

This only applies if everybody else, in addition to India, is also exhausting their per-country limits. But it is not the case. That's why although India face huge backlog, overall # of visas is smaller than the global CAP set in the law.

If per-country limit is lifted, the effective number of GCs issued will instantly reach its global limit and will continue reaching limit every other year from now on, adding more GCs and putting even more downward pressure in the labor market

Sorry, but you have just proved that you have absolutely no clue about how green cards work, yet are speaking with so much conviction. Unused green cards are moved around in categories and among countries till they are used up. It's called spill over. In recent years there has been very less spillover. Yelling in ignorance does not make it true. You are either spouting fake news or believing it. I suggest you Google the subject before commenting with an axe to grind against ethnic groups and trolling on a new account.

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