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Can't wait for the day, when we can create a dump file of our experience - equivalent of mp4, which has not just the sound and moving image but also other things like smell, temperature and other bodily sensations. Its almost like one of those Black Mirror episodes, in which you experience stuff, while just sitting on your sofa.

Pleasure industry should be one of the early adopters of this.

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> Its almost like one of those Black Mirror episodes

I'd always thought of Black Mirror as a warning or reminder to consider the wider consequences of technology. Not as a motivator to develop it faster.

The thought of this kind of technology (no matter how far away it really is from being deployed) terrifies me. I certainly do not trust someone like Elon Musk to develop it responsibly and pause to consider what it will do to all of humanity. That's what is at stake here, the definition of humanity, for better and worse.

These stories have played out before. Maybe the best example is Oppenheimer vs Edward Teller. There will always be an Edward Teller. Yet we still haven't blown ourselves up. If you ask why and how you will find hope.

> If you ask why and how you will find hope.

Unless you conclude "dumb luck".

Lots of people worked at making it look like "dumb luck". That point gets missed. What they did is not well understood by most people who cry about the dangers of the next pandoras box.

If you're interested in the topic of this comment and its replies, consider reading about the Vulnerable World Hypothesis [1].

I don't know how much credence to give it, however it's a fascinating thought experiment, especially the "Type-1" vulnerabilities.

[1] https://nickbostrom.com/papers/vulnerable.pdf

It ultimately seems to depend on collective discipline to avoid the quickest options.

But Elon does reflect on things. Part of his motivation for starting this company was to give humanity the possibility to interface with powerful AIs, which he fears will „leave us behind“. So yes, it might change the definition of humanity, but not because it‘s some unintended side consequence, but because it‘s a solution for a - in his perception - more existential threat to humanity as a whole.

It would be ironic if we ourselves turned into AI-like super powerful entities and AI in a sense of the word as we understand it now, never happens. If that moment were ever to get here, I would imagine we would not "exist" for long or under any pleasant circumstances given the likely fact that the creator of such technology would embed themselves at the center of it, with unlimited powers to control others.

> I certainly do not trust someone like Elon Musk to develop it responsibly

There's probably no one we could trust with this task. The best we can do is avoid having a monopoly and lock-in.

Additionally, you'd be able to more accurately predict what new technology will do to humanity if you could calculate and process information like a computer.

We need to increase our capacity to comprehend complex systems as things become more complex.

Isn't there an episode where exactly that kind of "experience dump" is being used by companies to perform background checks on employees?

Now imagine, thought theft, similar to modern day organ theft. Creepy pervs preying on young people to acquire their intimate memories and then selling them.

Well in "The Entire History of You" (s01e03) its used by police in the airport before letting you into the airport as a security screening.

This idea has already been used in a movie 24 years ago. Check out "Strange Days" (1995)

I suspect it's a lot older than that. Neuromancer (1984) has direct brain control of hacking, and I think it's a trope in various 70s sci-fi. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could find a citation from before the war.

Let's not forget about snuff films!

Just looked up snuff films. Thanks.

I hate it.

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