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Could this be used without Kubernetes?

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With further development, yes. It's just Docker containers. However, the current CLI is specific to Kubernetes.

If you weren't using Kubernetes, what orchestrator would you be interested in?

I'd be interested in a version I could use with Nomad at least.

Thanks Andy! To be clear, I really appreciate your effort to create a better platform for big data. I have spent 10 years on trying to make Hadoop & Spark financially and technically scalable for companies with more than 1PB data and I totally agree with you that we need a better system. I am just not ready to trade Hadoop or Spark problems to Kubernetes problems. The question is what orchestration do we need? What model do you want to implement? Could we build a better Kubernetes?

I've only been using Kubernetes for a couple months so far and am still learning, but I am very impressed so far. I love the way it facilitates dev and devops collaborating and the fact that it is cloud agnostic (I can even run a Kubernetes cluster on my desktop for local testing). My opinion so far is that the distributed cluster part is really solved by Kubernetes.

Yeah it is absolutely amazing for exactly that and yes it has a good approach to the distributed cluster problem. Once you put it in production there a very different picture.

https://github.com/hjacobs/kubernetes-failure-stories

I haven't had a single Kubernetes user who had it in production and did not have stability or performance issues with it. This is why I mentioned that I am not ready to trade my Hadoop outages and performance issues for Kubernetes ones.

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