Pop culture loves the 'butterfly effect' and gets it wrong
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As a stupid example, consider the change being a tree branch falling in the Serengeti. A small animal, which would otherwise have just continued eating, scuttles away. It crosses a nearby road, causing a nearly imperceptible slowdown for a woman on here way to the airport. She arrives just a few seconds later, but it's enough for the pattern of people in the hall to change and her to not see a sandwich shop she would have seen at a glance. She arrives meeting her husband, sleeps with him just like in the original timeline--but because she's slightly more hungry, did slightly different things on the plane, and so has slightly different discussions, they sleep with each other a tiny bit earlier or later, in an ever so slightly different position, but completely enough to either not cause conception of the child they would have conceived originally, or the conception of a different child (different sperm, different combination of genetic material, and so on).
And now it's obvious. The child is essentially a completely different person, with completely different thoughts, actions, being not exactly where the original child would habe been throughout its life at practically all moments (even if they go to the same school, they're unlikely to stand in the same spot in the hallway at all times). Blocking other people's view, or slowing them down, or causing them to go somewhere else. Causing many many "tree branches" of its own, many of which result in people meeting or not meeting other people, or having different offspring regardless, and so on.
Now, consider that this was just looking at one consequence of the falling tree branch. There are many more. The point is, it can be the tiniest things that ripple through time to entirely change who is populating earth a few decades later.
In media, even when the change is "prevent World War II", today's world almost always gets portrayed with the same characters and same personalities, that somehow still all met. I don't blame the writers, though, it certainly makes for a more entertaining story.
We both don't know how time travel would work if it is possible, and don't know well enough what the odds are of any small change affecting large long time change.
E.g maybe if Hitler didn't come along, someone else would have.
And in fact, exploring those effects is often a major part of back in time plots.
Moorcocks 'Behold the man' for example have someone travel back in time to meet Jesus only to realise that the real Jesus was a mentally disabled man and that since he is the only one that knows the image of present day Jesus, the time traveler himself must always have been the person history knows as Jesus, presenting a deterministic idea of time, where paradoxes would be impossible, because time is in that world in effect just one more spatial dimension our perception moves across.
There are many such models that would allow for some time travel plots to be plausible all the time we have no idea how it actually works.
Of course all of them will probably look quite ridiculous and quaint if we ever figure out the real thing.
Then, overall, the makeup of the world is still different. Will this really never cause anyone to get a speck of dust in their eye that they otherwise wouldn't, flinching, preventing them from having the though "oh I have to buy milk" that they were about to have?
I don't know... maybe it's just that some changes are indeed so tiny and remote that it takes them a long long time to have an effect, but once an obvious effect is present, I guess we're back to everything changing again?
You're underestimating the effect now. You only have to play about with a simple chaotic function and see how quickly the most infinitesimal change leads to utterly different results to appreciate that a butterfly flapping its wings sufficiently in advance literally alters the course of all subsequent tornados.
If your home had a 99% chance of making it through tornado season unscathed one year but for the flap of a butterfly's wings, then it may still have a 99% chance, however it would be a completely new role of the dice.
You can dip your finger in a river and tell me how a bunch of molecules are displaced and then those molecules displace other molecules and so on in a way that wouldn't otherwise have happened. But for all intents and purposes, the river carries on in its original course as if nothing happened. It doesn't turn into a seething mass, it doesn't reverse course, it doesn't spiral off into infinity.
Sensitivity to initial conditions is relatively rare, and even most chaotic functions only get interesting around certain values.
Consider the world in terms of large numbers of probability distributions.
When you combine distributions it's the variance and not the deviation that you add together.
I.e.: at larger scales the distribution of probabilistic variables tends toward the mean.
All that's left at smaller scales is quantum white noise.
The people will largely be genetically the same, the population and its distribution will be largely the same - they'll fit into the same ecological niche, they'll be inventing the same things and polluting the same rivers.
There is potential for the butterfly effect to do something - the right change to an unstable equilibrium certainly has the potential to trigger a cascade of events.
In general though, such events are highly improbable - and even dramatically cascading events will have their impacts dampened across time and space.
At a macroscopic scale, though, that won't look like much at all. Air currents, temperature, and so on don't really depend on what specific microstate the atmosphere is in. It's like shifting every object in a room at random by a tenth of a millimeter, for all intents and purposes it doesn't change anything. Usually. From time to time, some microscopic details can snowball into macroscopic effects. Well, pretty much any small change anywhere in the world is going to shuffle all of these, everywhere in the world, a few years down the road.
This means that, perhaps counter-intuitively, the more time passes, the more likely a small change is to have an effect. First it will shift everything a tenth of a millimeter, but eventually one of these shifts will snowball into a one-millimeter shift... which will propagate everywhere, setting the stage for a ten-millimeter shift, and so on. You'd be unlikely to notice, though, because the proximal cause for a big change will almost always be a medium-sized change, not a tiny one. Furthermore, it could take a very long time for the effects to really ramp up: large scale natural processes are very robust. Still, if a process has any kind of sensitivity to noise, it's just a matter of time before it shifts.
To take your examples, the kid born might be completely different, but will likely receive a somewhat similar education that it would have so he won't be too different.
Wars that might have been avoided on one occasion might just have been delayed, (WW1 ferdinand assassination comes to mind).
In chaos theory, the space of possibilities is usually split up in different regions called basins that each converge towards around its own attractor point. But usually a small change isn't enough to make you change of basin. It only matter when you are close to the boundary, on the edge of chaos.
It's kind like re-rolling when playing D&D, you can get luckier and win the fight instead of losing it, but if you are not well prepared it won't matter in the long run.
At scale, the law of large numbers average effects out. In science-fiction the theme of order vs chaos is often evoked, because it's one of the most powerful tool for the underdog hero to turn the situation around. By definition the hero must choose the more risky side and chaotic situation that will give him his only chance to get out on top.
Major inventions often have several people making the same basic discovery at the same time. You can’t build heavier than air controlled flight without efficient engines. You can’t build efficient engines without high precision manufacturing. Which requires it’s own constraints etc.
Replay the last 30 years and Dell might not have been the mail/phone then internet order PC vender to become a household name. But, one of them would because several where trying and efficiency of scale is a major advantage.
PS: One if my favorite examples is in a high school science class I was messing around with a power supply and mechanical pencil lead. It ended up making a rather bright light, in a moment of wonder I realized I had become possibly the millionth person to discover a precursor light bulb. Well over a hundred years late by on measure but in terms of the 100,000’s of years history of humanity fairly close.
Also, it's not that hard to discover electric light if you have a fully working power supply already... just about any piece of conductive material that is too small to handle the current going through it will make some light of varying intensity, so that realization probably came very very quickly after the concept of electricity was born. (The hard part was then to make that light last.)
As to light requiring a power supply that’s my point. Roll back 50 years to 1969 and they had integrated circuits, phones, radios, batteries, CCD, and networked computers. Without WWIII the odds seem high they would end up with highly capable cellphones with cameras, internet access, and reasonably familiar form factors due to human hands.
GPS being a free public system links to a specific aircraft being shot down. So that’s questionable, but we had early satellite navigation. Thus, the odds are good the military at least would have a similar system and if nothing else a paid for version via private companies seems likely.
Chaos theory uses the term strange attractors to these kinds of situations. Minor changes are generally going to end up in very similar situations.
Let's say 99 times out of 100, a delay of a few seconds doesn't impact whether one person is conceived.
There's a pretty big gulf to cross from that, to 'an entirely different set of people in one generation.'
It does not? Isn't the person that comes out dependent on many many minuscule factors? Aren't all sperm cells, from the same person, different in genetic makeup? Aren't many outside factors influencing how exactly the genes will combine?
In a more physicalist sense, you are somehow assuming that all the state that exists in her brain and body in general, all the synapses, electricity pulses, cells etc. have a chance to get back to the same state that it would have been without the change. I think that's pretty much impossible.
In fact, if anything, things will be even much more different the next day, and the further you go into the future, imposing more and more differences onto her own environment, rippling out exponentially.
Even more generally, every particle is subject to the same, with or without people in the equation, bounded only by the Light Cone emanating from the change (due to light speed being the limit on everything, including information; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone ).
As far as we know, no causation goes faster than light, so even if the "small change" was "an utter tide of total destruction of all matter", most of the observable universe can't be affected.
Someone born from the same batch of sperm, with parents at the same stage in their lives, is likely to be pretty similar.
There may be significant differences at the individual level e.g. a child of a different gender is born to a family with certain ideas about gender roles, or stillbirths/miscarriages/disabilities occur or fail to occur due to this falling branch, but in aggregate, the people of the next generation will be pretty similar to the ones who would have existed otherwise.
A lot of inventions get attributed to individual geniuses, but in many cases society was ripe for them, if Joseph Swan didn't exist, or became a ballet dancer instead, we would still have had electric light bulbs around the same time.
I am not just the product of my parents, but of the centuries of history of society leading up to now.
So in a few generations, you are right that all those small changes will result in all the people being different, society as a whole is likely to be fairly similar.
Even before error correcting codes we would have just got a crash and rebooted. This universe with a sightly angrier developer would still most likely be the same once he vented it out with a few swear words.
People once were looking for signs in the skies, and acting upon it to inject chaos into their lives, but random act of chances take time to make an impact whereas Order is effective and to the point.
Once the world has favored order over chaos, it builds itself to be resilient to small changes, it submit itself to the law of large numbers, and once it has mastered it, it submit itself to the rules it has chosen for himself.
That may be the great filter of Order to explain the Fermi Paradox. Order is so effective, that it can convince itself there is no Fermi Paradox using basic statistics, and march in order towards its own doom, because the doom is in the order itself. Hopefully once we storm area 51 in September, we will know for sure that aliens exist and that there is no reason to worry about Order being a great filter.
Take the problem from the other perspective, imagine you are given the opportunity to re-roll something in the world, but just one single thing locally to create a brand new universe, would you still choose to break a branch in a random forest ? Would you try to find a camel just before the last straw breaks its back, just to see the camel owner pick-up the fallen straw once again. At what point in time should you rollback for the world to be receptive to your divine intervention ?
The world would look more-less the same.
We like to ascribe inventions to lone brilliant geniuses, but the truth is, inventions are made on schedule. Whenever the "time is right", all the necessary preconditions are met, someone makes the invention. Usually multiple people simultaneously, but we tend to credit the first one that manages to tell the world about it. In our timeline, relativity is attributed to Einstein, but if a time traveller killed him when he was a child, someone else would still have published more-less the same thing around 1905. Maybe some time later.
Similar things seem to apply to economies too. People predominantly follow incentives, and those don't tend to flip randomly.
So if you traveled back in time a hundred years and thrown a rock at a random squirrel, the world today might be populated by completely different set of actors, but the scene would be roughly the same.
Other theories would say that your time travel has already been taken into account in the timeline, so anything you are doing to change the future will actually cause it to happen as it has already happened.
Would "random" particle interactions happen in the same way (making them decidedly not random)? Would the same branch fall at the same time, landing in the same place? Would every coin flip be the same? Would every single decision every human makes be the same?
Being the eldest I thought I would immediately cry for my unborn siblings who are now just an unrealized possibility.
Go ahead and test the way your world works. The short term doesn't matter. It gets beaten by the weight of other stuff.
In the end you're still in nearly identical initial conditions. While the individuals will change, the whole of society will be extremely similar due to statistical mechanics. Susie being slightly more aggressive will be balanced out by Johnny being slightly less aggressive, etc... You may cause a new extrema event though like Johnny inventing a cheap nuclear bomb, or you may prevent one.
A good time traveler would be able to sit outside time and probe reality using tiny changes until they get the outcome they want. But at that point you are so powerful I can't imagine anyone would care. Maybe that's why we didn't all kill ourselves yet. Some time traveler poking at the timeline.
Jurassic Park also has gets that concept correct.
I feel like pop culture uses the butterfly effect as shorthand for "don't change anything in the past because you have no idea how big a change it would cause in seemingly unrelated things"
This is the plot of Ray Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder".
"This is a founding idea of chaos theory, whose advocates sometimes say Lorenz helped dispel the Newtonian idea of a wholly predictable universe."
Maybe someone more well-versed in physics than myself can comment: is it really so that 'metaphysical determinism' (so to say) is specific to Newtonian physics, and so, that it's no longer the state of the art in our understanding of nature? In other words, is there no room for Laplace's demon beyond classical mechanics? That would take the concept of the nature of 'randomness' beyond what I so far understood it to be.
That's quite orthogonal to the question of practical predictability. What chaos theory shows is that, regardless of which model of microscopic physics we are talking about, there are important aspects of the future that cannot be predicted to high precision from within the universe.
This poses some difficult questions for science, given that most science up to now has been about predicting something, trying it and checking whether theory and practice matches.
I liked The Butterfly Effect. I also like A sound of thunder wherein the death of a moth alters the future.
Perhaps it’s not a butterfly effect, but I like to think of the “butterfly effect” of extra money invested in research, for example, paying off in large future dividends.
For instance, if the transistor had been discovered 10 years earlier, would the world be significantly different today? Imagine hundreds of other smaller discoveries had happened sooner...
Maybe some very talented people would have picked up a career based on transistors before they were locked into something else and humanity would have harnessed fusion power by now.
Maybe some aggressive people would have harnessed transistors for weapons earlier and humanity would be eradicated by now.
Maybe due to a strange coincidence involving a transistor salesman on a trip to Brazil and some records on his way back, we'd all be dancing Bossa Nova at New Year's Eve, in honor of a decades old tradition.
"What if", is, in reality, pointless, as everything depends on everything (at least within our Light Cone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone )
Also, I’m not trying to play what-if with the past, I’m trying to get you to think about a different future where we make an additional investmen/effort to learn more sooner.
If the US spent 1% more on research every year, that would have a large widespread consequence. If the top 10 ten countries did...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_researc...
>A SmartMoney.com market analysis from 2007 cites Lorenz, then suggests that hypothetical problems at Sony could affect a string of shippers, retailers, and investors: "One butterfly, in this case a Japanese butterfly, sets off the entire chain." Even applied to society, rather than nature, such claims merit skepticism.
What's wrong with that? Is he blissfully unaware of, for example, the Maersk hack and how it "butterfly effected" the entire chain?
I don't know it's wrong per say to use it as most people do but I see the author'a point. It's often (falsely) used when there is a chain of ovents and we know which thing caused that chain.
Their definition (presumably the original definition) of the butterfly effect requires that it be untraceable. If you make a tiny change to initial conditions, you can’t accurately predict the outcome without a complete model.
Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_princ...
Also there is a detail I don't understand: Lorenz talked about the pressure differential underneath a butterfly's wing, being used in a large-scale weather simulation. But given the computing resources and thus the limited resolution of such simulations at the time, I wonder how big that butterfly must have been.