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And how exactly is Hangouts better? I mean I sort of get your argument and what you are trying to tell, but what's your punch line here?

At least some people trust Google more than they trust Zoom?

I don't, and I wish I can quit using gmail too, but I still need to find the alternative.

And what about my initial question?

Yes, that statement was contradictory and I realize I should stop using Hangouts too.

Does that answer your question?