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It came pre-installed on my Samsung phone. I'm sure I count towards that number, even though I uninstalled or disabled it as soon as I got the phone.

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Same on my SOs Nokia.

She threw it out right away.

Reminds me of the Chrome rush when it came "bundled" with all kinds of freeware and suddenly overtook Firefox.

Exactly. It comes preinstalled on many mobiles and tablets, like Samsung’s. This number is worthless.

It came pre-installed on my Samsung tablet but not on any of our Samsung phones (GS6s, GS7s, GS9+). That may be carrier- or country-specific.

Seriously, after seeing all the spyware "analytics" they tie in to Windows 10, I wouldn't trust anything from Microsoft to be on my phone. Google is also pretty invasive, but at least they're not malicious.

I'm surprised you consider Microsoft's data collection practices to be worse than Google's. Would you be willing to elaborate on that at all?

Not OP. Microsoft gave away windows 10 for free and then added tracking to everything you do. I believe they even started showing ads on the start menu. It’s free no longer but the practices continue. You’d probably have to upgrade to business or enterprise to remove it.

>Not OP. Microsoft gave away windows 10 for free

Correction: Windows 10 upgrade for free. If it's a new system, you still need to buy a license, and OEMs still have to pay.

Google gives Chrome, Android, Gmail, Search,.. away for free so that they can track and show you ads.

Is it better in Android?

You consider Google less invasive? That is an interesting spin. Although, why do you think Microsoft is malicious? Google is showing you ads to manipulate your behavior for their own profit. I find that business model more problematic.

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